Originally Posted by brikino

You know what's sad...I have been a sports car person for 20+ years and switched to a 4runner and JK a few years ago. I said to myself, "What cool, kick a$$ nice people there are on the forums and they're really cool in person too!" For the most part, the responses I've received on this thread have affirmed that. On the other hand, based on some of the responses here, the same holier than thou, screw those new to the scene, make a judgement call on someone whom you have never met let alone have one clue about crappy attitude that lives in the sports car world is alive and well even here in the Jeep world and forums. To those who have given constructive criticism and advice, thank you very much I hope to repay the favor to you one day. To those who think I've never turned a wrench before, perhaps you should try running a few laps with some of the BMW, Porche. Audi, Ferrari or Lambo egomaniacs - you'd fit right in. PS Knowing that you do NOT know everything and knowing that turning a wrench on an M3 race car is NOT the same as turning a wrench on a lifted Jeep is what separates a smart person from a not-so-smart person and ego from humility. Thanks again to those who chimed in with constructive criticism and advice. Much appreciated!

Originally Posted by JK_Crawler

What am I stealing? I'm sure if the OP has the money to get the parts, he has it to have parts maintained. Also him maintaining the jeep doesn't matter, yes it's a potential danger to himself and others. But I'm sure your not going around worrying about every car on the road or the OP for that matter... People neglect to maintain their vehicles everyday so your comment makes no sense in regards to his future mods. Are you out there offering to help fix people's vehicles? Nope you and others are sitting behind the computer bashing him because he wants to mod his jeep and doesn't have time and is trying to seek advice on what's fair for him and his buddy/friend. What's a morgage have to do with the OP's question? What's does it have to do with me? I don't sell mortgages and I don't sell lift kits... I install them and they are installed correctly and are scheduled to come back after 500miles for a inspection and re-torque of necessary components. Don't get me confused with half the automotive industry, because I have pride in what I do and want every vehicle to be as safe as my own. Also my " who cares" comments were for all those that were bashing the OP for not putting in the wrench time himself, if you were one of them I can see why you are but hurt lol.. If not I don't understand why you went off on a tangent, but hey if that's what makes you happy continue on. I build my jeep for myself and others on here claim to do the same, then get bashed for reasons like those posted in here. Point I was making is answer the mans question and press on, instead of saying this is pointless or you should do it yourself and then bashing him when he says he doesn't have the time. Time is money for most people and obviously his time is precisious to him. The aftermarket automotive industry is a billion dollar industry and because of people like the OP and others, small business are able to make a living installing these parts because they don't have the time or skill. Does that make them any less apart of the jeep community, it shouldn't but others give another impression with their jackass comments. Don't knock him down for seeking someone else's help for what ever reason. The best constructive advice was to have a get together of fellow jeepers to help the guy out.. Also you might want to read that last 2 sentences you wrote and maybe seek your own advice... I'll quote it for you incase you don't recall what you wrote.

Originally Posted by Invest2m4

Honestly, we were trying to offer some wisdom and insight. No need to take offense. Next time provide a little more detail on the situation.

Maybe you don't like our comments, but I assure you there are no ego issues here. The guys who challenge you are the ones you want on the trail when you are. We've seen it all and fixed it all. Every day people are on here posting about issues. Years of helping those people leads to a collective knowledge. I want jeep owners to have a great experience. So, I provide the collective insight to help make that happen. If
you want to call us dicks for that, then so be it. We don't need your respect or appreciation.

Originally Posted by Tooadvanced

Wow this thread escalated quickly!!

Originally Posted by brikino

Sorry I wasn't clear the first time around. My bad. I appreciate the tips and advice from all those that offered it. It's not the advice and tips I don't like. And I never called anyone a dick. It's the ignorant comments about not having turned a wrench and similar comments from people who have no clue what my background is that are rude, uncalled for and disappointing. Yes, I know very little about Jeeps compared to most of you and compared to other types of vehicles. That's why I'm asking the questions and want to learn. And forgive me if I'm "wrong", but for every person who seems to know everything about about Jeeps, there's someone else who says their advice is wrong. So who is really the "expert"? You could say that it's no one and a lot is based on personal experience and personal preference. As far as learning from everyone, I learned a long time ago that the hunched over old guy my father's age can teach me more and save me more money in 15 minutes of listening to him than listening to someone half their age for over 10 hours. But spending 10 hours with someone half their age is also very valuable. I asked the questions I did because I want to be educated with Jeeps just as I am with the other things I love and have a passion for.

Originally Posted by Invest2m4

Honestly, we were trying to offer some wisdom and insight. No need to take offense. Next time provide a little more detail on the situation.

Maybe you don't like our comments, but I assure you there are no ego issues here. .