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Old Aug 1, 2011 | 07:40 AM
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Just installed a Teraflex spacer leveling kit. Steering wheel was a little off after install, so needed to turn the turnbuckle about 1/4 rotation to get it back to center, no problem. Haven't had the chance to get out on the highway yet, but the steering seems to be a bit looser, for lack of a better way of describing it. I wouldn't consider it flighty (will have to get out on the highway to test that out), but it just seems not as responsive. I would say there seems to be a dead spot about 5 degrees in each direction when the wheel is turned from center. So that means I have to turn the wheel further now to make the same turn as prior to the lift.

Now, this could all be normal and something I just have to get used to, which wouldn't be a problem. But I thought I would post up to get some opinions on it anyways. Thanks.
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Old Aug 1, 2011 | 07:44 AM
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did you make sure to tighten up your track bar bolts with the weight of your jeep on the ground? also, you might want to loosen up your control arm bolts, rock your jeep around and then tighen them up again to the proper torque settings again, with the weight of your jeep on the ground.

if you still have a flightness feel, it's being caused by the lack of positive caster you have and yeah, this is totally normal after lifting a jeep. the higher you go, the more you'll want to correct for this.
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Old Aug 1, 2011 | 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted by wayoflife
did you make sure to tighten up your track bar bolts with the weight of your jeep on the ground? also, you might want to loosen up your control arm bolts, rock your jeep around and then tighen them up again to the proper torque settings again, with the weight of your jeep on the ground.

if you still have a flightness feel, it's being caused by the lack of positive caster you have and yeah, this is totally normal after lifting a jeep. the higher you go, the more you'll want to correct for this.
Actually, I didn't loosen the track bar bolts at all, so they are still at factory settings. I installed the lift without even pulling the tires, so that another reason I didn't bother loosening everything up. With the tires in the way, I don't believe I could have gotten a wrench on those upper control arm nuts. I was planning on loosening all control arms bolts and the track bar, shake the jeep, then retorque to spec, but my torque wrench wasn't playing nicely for some reason. But I only ended up loosening the lower control arms on the front and not entirely sure I got them back to 125 ft lbs (stupid effin torque wrench). Probably going to try that this afternoon.

I've looked at the Project-JK torque listings, and I believe these are right, but just want to make sure.

Front:
Track bar - 125 ft lbs on axle and frame
Lower control arms - 125 ft lbs on axle and frame
Upper control arms - 75 ft lbs on axle and frame (seems like I have read somewhere that the frame side was 125 ft lbs, but your spec sheet shows 75, so wanted to check on that)

Rear
Track bar - 125 ft lbs
Lower control arms - 125 ft lbs on axle and frame
Upper control ams - 125 ft lbs on axle and frame


Questions:
Is there a need to do the rear track bar?
I'll have to pull the tires to get to the nuts on the upper control arms front and rear, correct? Or is it a weld nut on that bracket? Now that I think about it, the only way to torque with the weight of the vehicle on the tires would be to, uh, leave the tires on. haha.

Sorry for the newb questions. I've installed several lowering and drag setups in mustangs, but this is the first time I've ever done a lift, or even work on a Jeep, of any kind.

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Old Aug 1, 2011 | 08:33 AM
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doing all the bolts wouldn't be a bad idea but, your flightyness will be all up front. this should help but, your caster will still be off a bit and ultimately, a tad bit more positive angle will help out a lot. not needed by any means but, it will help get rid of the flighty feel.
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Old Aug 1, 2011 | 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by wayoflife
doing all the bolts wouldn't be a bad idea but, your flightyness will be all up front. this should help but, your caster will still be off a bit and ultimately, a tad bit more positive angle will help out a lot. not needed by any means but, it will help get rid of the flighty feel.
Gotcha. So, just to be certain, I shouldn't have a problem getting to any of the nuts and bolts on any of the control arms with the wheels/tires in place, right? And are those values I listed for the torque specs correct? Thanks Eddie!
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Old Aug 1, 2011 | 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by 4fit?
Gotcha. So, just to be certain, I shouldn't have a problem getting to any of the nuts and bolts on any of the control arms with the wheels/tires in place, right? And are those values I listed for the torque specs correct? Thanks Eddie!
yeah, you should be able to do all this without the need to remove your tires and yes, you want to torque them to the values listed above.
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Old Aug 1, 2011 | 11:01 AM
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Excellent. Thanks again. Now off to find a 21mm wrench that I lost somewhere.
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