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Old Jul 28, 2007 | 06:45 AM
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So i installed my 21/2 TF BB lift yesterday, and had some issues.
It appears that My kit came with Rear sway bar Links that were TOO LONG. Once installed the sway bar was hitting the tire on the P-side.
Fortunately A friend had some '99 WJ links that were about the same length as the original rears BUT they were curved, which turned out to be perfect with the alignment issues with the sway bar and the lower links. I think I still need to get longer ones, since i am a little worried about over-centering the rears under full flex. but just a heads up:
1. the teraflex kit I got came with links that were about 3.5-4 inches longer that the originals, which put the sway bar into the tire on P-side
2. the '99 WJ links work great for aligning the sway bar and axle. Now if I can just find longer WJ links!

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Old Jul 28, 2007 | 06:50 AM
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Originally Posted by bah000
So i installed my 21/2 TF BB lift yesterday, and had some issues.
It appears that My kit came with Rear sway bar Links that were TOO LONG. Once installed the sway bar was hitting the tire on the P-side.
Fortunately A friend had some '99 WJ links that were about the same length as the original rears BUT they were curved, which turned out to be perfect with the alignment issues with the sway bar and the lower links. I think I still need to get longer ones, since i am a little worried about over-centering the rears under full flex. but just a heads up:
1. the teraflex kit I got came with links that were about 3.5-4 inches longer that the originals, which put the sway bar into the tire on P-side
2. the '99 WJ links work great for aligning the sway bar and axle. Now if I can just find longer WJ links!

My JK now has a little WJ DNA
Again, your links are NOT TOO LONG and specifically, the reason why your link is hitting just one side of your Jeep's tires is because your axle has shifted over due to your new lift. Now, this shift is completely normal and will not cause any problems but without a track bar relocation bracket or adjustable unit, it is something that will happen. Now, as I mentioned in the other thread, all you need to do is install the links on the inside of the the mounts as opposed to the outside as was the case from the factory.
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Old Jul 28, 2007 | 07:19 AM
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I had read about putting them on the inside, and indeed I did, at least on the top, the bottom was so large that it was making contact with the mount, so I had to put the bottom on the outside, leaving an uncomfortable angle. however, It was the sway bar that was making contact with the tire since it was almost completely horizontal. The shorter links fixed the problem, so I have surmised that the links were too long. Unfortunately the issue set me back an hour or so so I didnt take pics. But I will measure the rears that came with the kit and see if they are correct.
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Old Jul 28, 2007 | 07:28 AM
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I had read about putting them on the inside, and indeed I did, at least on the top, the bottom was so large that it was making contact with the mount, so I had to put the bottom on the outside, leaving an uncomfortable angle.
Hmmm, okay. My TFBB kit didn't come with the links so I didn't know the bottoms were so large. Other links like ones made by FT do not have this problem. In any case, the links really should be straight up and down and not in an angle.

however, It was the sway bar that was making contact with the tire since it was almost completely horizontal. The shorter links fixed the problem, so I have surmised that the links were too long. Unfortunately the issue set me back an hour or so so I didnt take pics. But I will measure the rears that came with the kit and see if they are correct.
But that's where you want your swaybar to be - almost completely horizontal as it will give you the greatest flex range. Again, your problem is not that your links are too long but rather, your rear track bar has not been relocated, your wheels have too much back spacing and maybe the link ends are too large but the lenght sounds right to me
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Old Jul 28, 2007 | 07:53 AM
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So I just went and measured them and looked again to see where they ended up.
The links that came with the kit were 4 inches longer than the originals (14 inches vs 10" orignal. This put the sway bar past horizontal - I had to go look rather than memory which made the sway bar rub on the tire.


I included pics of the WJ sway on there which fixed the problem.
We tried every imaginable setup for the kit links but there were many problems from them being that long, including the the top bolts looked like they would hit the frame before the bump stops as well as the above problem.
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Old Jul 28, 2007 | 08:02 AM
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Originally Posted by bah000
So I just went and measured them and looked again to see where they ended up.
The links that came with the kit were 4 inches longer than the originals (14 inches vs 10" orignal. This put the sway bar past horizontal - I had to go look rather than memory which made the sway bar rub on the tire.
Right, but you just installed a 2.5" lift on your JK. That means they are only 1.5" longer than what they needed to be stock and this is totally within the acceptable range. Does this make sense?

I included pics of the WJ sway on there which fixed the problem.
We tried every imaginable setup for the kit links but there were many problems from them being that long, including the the top bolts looked like they would hit the frame before the bump stops as well as the above problem.
What can I say, if the WJ links work for you, wonderful. And, if they are a bit short, by how much, +/- an inch is totally okay and you should be just fine. Hell, for whatever it's worth, my TFBB kit didn't come with new links and I just ran the factory links and without any problems I might add.
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Old Jul 28, 2007 | 08:14 AM
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It makes sense, but that extra 1.5 inches seem to make a very big difference on the passenger side. I am not sure if this is the length in all the kits but even putting the link on the inside didnt fix the problem... I have not contact TF yet since its Sat, so I do not know if this is the intended length. I will contact them and let them know. I was just wondering if anyone else had this problem or was it just me

Also, While I have your attention, I just wanted to say thanks for the write-up
It was a major reason I tried this myself.

Just a helpful hint for others from my install ... we did not have to disconnect the front sway bar to put the springs on, we jacked up the opposite side which lowered it enough to slip the springs back on.. I think this saved us some time and effort...
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Old Jul 28, 2007 | 08:29 AM
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It makes sense, but that extra 1.5 inches seem to make a very big difference on the passenger side. I am not sure if this is the length in all the kits but even putting the link on the inside didnt fix the problem... I have not contact TF yet since its Sat, so I do not know if this is the intended length. I will contact them and let them know. I was just wondering if anyone else had this problem or was it just me
But doesn't it seem odd to you that the problem only exists on the passenger side of your Jeep? Doesn't it make you wonder why this side only and not both sides of your Jeep as it it should if this were just a link lenght issue? Once again, your specific problem is being caused by your axle shifting over to one side due to your lift. The only way to correct this is by installing a trackbar relocation bracket or new adjustable one. By doing this, you will be able to recenter your axle. Is this making sense to you?

Also, While I have your attention, I just wanted to say thanks for the write-up. It was a major reason I tried this myself.
Glad to hear it and if there's anything I can do to help you out, don't hesitate to ask

Just a helpful hint for others from my install ... we did not have to disconnect the front sway bar to put the springs on, we jacked up the opposite side which lowered it enough to slip the springs back on.. I think this saved us some time and effort...
But, didn't you install your factory rear links up front?
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Old Jul 28, 2007 | 08:40 AM
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?Typo... didnt have to disconnect Track-bar

I get the whole alignment issue, which is why I saw it just one side.
I was just throwing this out there because I think it may be a problem for those that arent installing spacers or relo brackets the first time around.

I do plan on putting in a relocation bracket and/or adjustable bar to bring everything back into alignment.

what are your thoughts on the relocation brackets, I have heard rumors of breakage , would you suggest longer/adjustable bars or relocation brackets?
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Old Jul 28, 2007 | 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by bah000
?Typo... didnt have to disconnect Track-bar
LOL!! Got it

I get the whole alignment issue, which is why I saw it just one side.
I was just throwing this out there because I think it may be a problem for those that arent installing spacers or relo brackets the first time around.
Understood and definitely worth putting out there.

I do plan on putting in a relocation bracket and/or adjustable bar to bring everything back into alignment.

what are your thoughts on the relocation brackets, I have heard rumors of breakage , would you suggest longer/adjustable bars or relocation brackets?
They are just fine so long as it is one that is bolted to the frame mount. Ones that get mounted to the axle put way too much stress on it and it can cause it to fail. This has been a real problem with people using Skyjacker brackets and enough so that they now sell a reinforcment bracket for the relocation bracket.
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