Again, the stabilizer just masks any problems. It doesn't cure them. The stock stabilizer is fine for most people, so there may be other components that would be a better use for your money.

Caster is basically the forward/backward 'tilt' of the front axle.
Stock caster is around 4.2 degrees. As you lift higher, the pinion (where the driveshaft connects) tilts upward, which automatically lowers the caster. The higher you lift, the higher the pinion tilts, the lower the caster number goes, and the flightier the steering gets. As noted, this is not adjustable with the stock control arms.

 

a video of a two door jk before and after adding the fox ats stabilizer and on the before video the guy went down the road like mine . Turn the wheel a little to the right then back to center then a little to left then center ,but after he added the stabilizer the same road he pointed and never had to touch the steering wheel pretty much . Amazing change in steering But I get what your saying , im not sure if changing the stock control arms would benefit me either . Yeh maybe some dif covers, or something but id say for my needs im ok with the stock rubicon and the few mods I did like bumper, wheels and tires, track bar , if im not lifting what else is there?

 

just another sales video, i ran no steering stabilizer and would have it no other way (other than they hydro im working on). To me they are not needed at all and a waste of money that masks problems till they get pretty bad. if money is tight no way id blow it on a steering stabilizer.... shit if i recall that things crazy overpriced also...

 

I know they can mask issues but in one video I saw it take all the free play out of steering wheel it seemed on a two door . I don't have a lot of play its tight but you know twitchy two doors . I haven't bought the cow just yet it was just a thought to maybe do away with any drift from like bump steer on a stock 2 door / looking for some improvements that's all . like these 9000xl rancho shocks I got made a nice difference . Things that will make it ride nicer on and off road . Im not lifting it . 33s I have on are just fine for my needs . I was thinking a new synergy tie rod but then I cant swap back and forth to my rubicon tires I use in the winter , with out putting spacers on ot will hit stock wheel . don't want that . I love my trail grapplers but the stock tires do better in winter I felt and take the road salt .


what are the best things I can do to improve stock ride with out adding a lift ?? open for suggestions
I want to buy things I can add grease to also not this stock crap where they cant be greased
I want quality but at a stock height what about control arms ? should I get after market or just leave stock ? btw nice jeep you got there checked out the album

 

You do not currently have a lift? What is your opinion on why the caster is so low?

Are you getting bump steer also?
Do some more reading on low caster. (there is a blurb in the suspension section of the FAQ's stuck to the top of this modified tech area)

 

ive explained no lift in several posts also some bump steer otherwise I wouldn't have mentiond the fox ats helping that on a two door . My question was if the numbers looked right for a stock rig (that was it ) others have been helpful on the replies

If you don't have the answer don't bother replying and im not a believer that one should run with out a steering stabilizer . I know they can mask issues but go tell that to every jeep owner that has a after market one ok ! Go tell fox , and rancho who design them that they have no purpose on a jeep / minesa dd .

If the caster is off from normal spec on a stock jeep . Then state that my question was do the number look right

 

just my thoughts on this, toe out will make the car, or jeep in this case, turn into corners better ( for the street it wil feel more responsive) it depends on how sensitive the driver is but small adjustments can "feel" like a big change. anyway I would have it re checked at a different shop, or if you still have then numbers have it set back, because thats how you like it and YOU are the driver lol.

also, cool little video about what is going on with steering, I know, its all race cars but they have to steer too!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpZcRBfJIYA in regards to the vibration, is it in the steering wheel? or in the seat? do you know if they rotated the tires on you? It could be something as simple as an out of round tire.

hope you get it figured out!! i hate that feeling when you get your jeep back from the dealer and something just does not seem the same as when you dropped it off.

 

I see my shifter shake at same pulsation too and theres a piece of rawhide dangling off my visor and that seems to bounce in rythem ! lol so I guess I feel it in steering wheel but yet it drives pretty nice for most part now with new shocks . but it feels like maybe a tire balance thing but two sets of tires and rotated them all back and forth . Its virtually gone or reduced at this point . Before the track bar was replaced I had death wobble 2 times . Every thing under jeep shows no sign of worn parts , I bought new ball joints just the same but havnt put them in seeing its driving well right now but . It kinda feels like a ovaled tire that type of thing on the bounce feel but two sets of tires cant be . Used to be pronounced at 40mph . But then I found it was gradualy there or when I go into a corner I can feel the meaty treads on outer wheel . yet it dosent go into a wobble or shake . Im very sensitive to the way things ride I don't expect it to drive like a car either and im used to vibration . I cant see replacing tie rod and drag link if they don't have wear either . Tell me somthing my rear drive shaft show no wobble and front is a new one replaced by dealer . but I di have a roll over noise in my transmission from time I bought it while in neutral and to me that sounds like something in transfer case rubs in a rotational sound only in neutral . ive wondered if it could be related to this tolerance? trust me I know vibrations! but tracking this in a jeep can be quite a challenge & dealers certainly wont help . good video btw & true every driver has their own set tolerance and know what feels right . im leaning toward that setting they did with toe . it wasn't drifting at all or twitchy steering till they put their grubbys on it saying it was toed out to far and that's what caused dw lol ( it was def the track bar they said it wasn't )

 

Could it be a bad rim-too much runout? Perhaps the bad rim has remained on the front axle during both sets of tires?

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I took it to a dealer and they said it was within specs so wouldn't replace the front driverside brake drum the holes in the drum itself are not perfectly fitted over studs of the wheel so if the tire is off the jeep you can actually put hands on studs and if you agitate it theres movement back and forth of the drum . only on this one none of the other three . T he dealer says when tire is bolted up it cant move so its within spec . is this true I would think that drum shouldn't move to right or left if holes were correct size ? it seems they are ovaled out . yet not chewed up but not a tight fit over the stud bolts