those who understand alignments
two different sets of wheels rubicon and mb15
btw it was after I had had them put snow blower on the rack I noticed my first death wobble when snow blower was off its only 200lbs but nothing seems damaged in rear ? track bar or what ever but never had a tremor before the blower was on then next day I had drath wobble out on highway over first bump I hit . the front track bar is now new and no death wobble anymore
Last edited by jeepmojo; Jul 3, 2014 at 10:01 AM.
ive explained no lift in several posts also some bump steer otherwise I wouldn't have mentiond the fox ats helping that on a two door . My question was if the numbers looked right for a stock rig (that was it ) others have been helpful on the replies
If you don't have the answer don't bother replying and im not a believer that one should run with out a steering stabilizer . I know they can mask issues but go tell that to every jeep owner that has a after market one ok ! Go tell fox , and rancho who design them that they have no purpose on a jeep / minesa dd .
If the caster is off from normal spec on a stock jeep . Then state that my question was do the number look right
If you don't have the answer don't bother replying and im not a believer that one should run with out a steering stabilizer . I know they can mask issues but go tell that to every jeep owner that has a after market one ok ! Go tell fox , and rancho who design them that they have no purpose on a jeep / minesa dd .
If the caster is off from normal spec on a stock jeep . Then state that my question was do the number look right
I apologize if my posts made you all bent out of shape, but the questions are valid. Your caster is low. If you do not have a lift, what caused the low caster? Is flighty steering from low caster what you are feeling? If the caster has always been low, and the only thing that was changed was the toe, have you tried adjusting it? You keep ignoring these, and going back to an expensive bandaid, so go buy a bandaid... 

they could be valid questions but I simply stated all those valid questions you had in my prior post before
you asked all the same valid questions . Not bent out of shape but don't need to keep repeating the same thing over . and im well aware of planmans video and also the importance of a stabilizer shock . you might choose to run wobbly through the forest naked too , this I don't know or realy care . My question was if the numbers looked right for a stock set up . I could post thread after thread of those who benefit from quality stabilizers as to those few who say not needed if this were the case even chhrysler wouldn't spend the money on putting the holes in brackets and installing them . Yeh I know theres those who don't use them , thers those that do use them . Try putting your opinion on (fox shocks web page ) and see what you hear back if its a waste of money having a quality ats ss this is what id like to eliminate with a fox ats perhaps . This video is not mine and mine dosent drift as much but stabilizers do have a place and its not just to mask problems
Steering - YouTube
you asked all the same valid questions . Not bent out of shape but don't need to keep repeating the same thing over . and im well aware of planmans video and also the importance of a stabilizer shock . you might choose to run wobbly through the forest naked too , this I don't know or realy care . My question was if the numbers looked right for a stock set up . I could post thread after thread of those who benefit from quality stabilizers as to those few who say not needed if this were the case even chhrysler wouldn't spend the money on putting the holes in brackets and installing them . Yeh I know theres those who don't use them , thers those that do use them . Try putting your opinion on (fox shocks web page ) and see what you hear back if its a waste of money having a quality ats ss this is what id like to eliminate with a fox ats perhaps . This video is not mine and mine dosent drift as much but stabilizers do have a place and its not just to mask problems
Steering - YouTube
Last edited by jeepmojo; Jul 3, 2014 at 11:38 AM.
they could be valid questions but I simply stated all those valid questions you had in my prior post before
you asked all the same valid questions . Not bent out of shape but don't need to keep repeating the same thing over . and im well aware of planmans video and also the importance of a stabilizer shock . you might choose to run wobbly through the forest naked too , this I don't know or realy care . My question was if the numbers looked right for a stock set up . I could post thread after thread of those who benefit from quality stabilizers as to those few who say not needed if this were the case even chhrysler wouldn't spend the money on putting the holes in brackets and installing them . Yeh I know theres those who don't use them , thers those that do use them . Try putting your opinion on (fox shocks web page ) and see what you hear back if its a waste of money having a quality ats ss this is what id like to eliminate with a fox ats perhaps . Steering - YouTube
you asked all the same valid questions . Not bent out of shape but don't need to keep repeating the same thing over . and im well aware of planmans video and also the importance of a stabilizer shock . you might choose to run wobbly through the forest naked too , this I don't know or realy care . My question was if the numbers looked right for a stock set up . I could post thread after thread of those who benefit from quality stabilizers as to those few who say not needed if this were the case even chhrysler wouldn't spend the money on putting the holes in brackets and installing them . Yeh I know theres those who don't use them , thers those that do use them . Try putting your opinion on (fox shocks web page ) and see what you hear back if its a waste of money having a quality ats ss this is what id like to eliminate with a fox ats perhaps . Steering - YouTube
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people already gave there opinions on the numbers you posted...hell by 3 stabilizers and that bitch will be a ferrari.

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just watched that video and my opinion didnt change, that was a shitty video. id rather go hydro assist for damn near the same cost as the fox...
Last edited by Maertz; Jul 3, 2014 at 11:46 AM.
x2...
people already gave there opinions on the numbers you posted...hell by 3 stabilizers and that bitch will be a ferrari.
edit:
just watched that video and my opinion didnt change, that was a shitty video. id rather go hydro assist for damn near the same cost as the fox...
people already gave there opinions on the numbers you posted...hell by 3 stabilizers and that bitch will be a ferrari.

edit:
just watched that video and my opinion didnt change, that was a shitty video. id rather go hydro assist for damn near the same cost as the fox...
Steering - YouTube
Quote Originally Posted by Maertz View Post
x2...
people already gave there opinions on the numbers you posted...hell by 3 stabilizers and that bitch will be a Ferrari
MY response to you on this is : They gave opinion yes and I appreciate that . You just seem to like to ask redundant obvious questions that I cant answer . nor do I think are helpful
Last edited by jeepmojo; Jul 3, 2014 at 12:00 PM.
I think I'll change my opinion. Why try to figure out what was bent to make the caster that much lower than stock, or what the actual problem is, when you can slap a sexy new stabilizer on.
i dont see where i asked any questions?
Last edited by Maertz; Jul 3, 2014 at 12:10 PM.
what made my caster so low ?????? if I knew this I wouldn't be asking if the number looked right ! that's all
im just trying to get things right and not sure if these numbers are something that might be causing a issue of a vibration of some type seeing parts all look good and arnt loose
not looking for handclaps and looking for a ride of a sports car . trying to get it dialed in , and if I cant adjust caster im not sure what is needed
and if 3.7 and 3.8 caster is way low how would one fix that on a stock jeep no lift if its supposed to be 4.2 as was said I think & could this be what im feeling a feel of a unbalance tire feel
im just trying to get things right and not sure if these numbers are something that might be causing a issue of a vibration of some type seeing parts all look good and arnt loose
not looking for handclaps and looking for a ride of a sports car . trying to get it dialed in , and if I cant adjust caster im not sure what is neededand if 3.7 and 3.8 caster is way low how would one fix that on a stock jeep no lift if its supposed to be 4.2 as was said I think & could this be what im feeling a feel of a unbalance tire feel
Last edited by jeepmojo; Jul 3, 2014 at 12:22 PM.



