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Old May 2, 2012 | 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by JeepinBoy
Well he lied. You can adjust the toe yourself, super easy. You want your toe to be toed in 1/16-1/8 of an inch. Here's a link for that.

Project-JK.com - Jeep JK Wrangler Resource » Basic Do-it-Yourself Jeep JK Wrangler Front End Alignment

Caster being off will make the jeep feel like its very flighty, constantly correcting your steering to stay on course. It sounds to me your pleased with the alignment. Not sure what tire size your running, but I would throw on a beefier steering stabilizer for the bump steer, make sure track bar bolts are tight and call it good.

Also just keep an eye on tire wear and rotate often.
Wow, yet again, one post with one good thread and I understand it. And it blows my mind that someone that does this for a living didn't know how to adjust that.
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Old May 2, 2012 | 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by damon.l
lol at ignorant tech.

the alignment shops ive used in the past have computers that tell them exactly how to do the alignment adjustments. im amazed the tech didnt know how to adjust your toe.
He did have it up on the machine and was showing it all to me. But kept point to the ball joints saying that's what has to move to change my toe in. Wish I would have known it was just a change on the bar.

Good thing he didn't charge me, or I would be really pissed right now.

Also, because of Project-JK thread, I might as well and just do the toe in myself.
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Old May 2, 2012 | 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by ShakeNBake
He did have it up on the machine and was showing it all to me. But kept point to the ball joints saying that's what has to move to change my toe in. Wish I would have known it was just a change on the bar.

Good thing he didn't charge me, or I would be really pissed right now.

Also, because of Project-JK thread, I might as well and just do the toe in myself.
your ball joints should have no effect on your toe and again, you shouldn't need to adjust your toe unless your tie-rod is bent.
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Old May 2, 2012 | 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by ShakeNBake
Also, because of Project-JK thread, I might as well and just do the toe in myself.
i have checked my toe to make sure all is well with eddie's (wayoflife) method and its easy as pie.
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Old May 2, 2012 | 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by wayoflife
your ball joints should have no effect on your toe and again, you shouldn't need to adjust your toe unless your tie-rod is bent.
Well I sure hope I don't have a bent tie rod. The only reason I keep bringing it up, is because my 3.5" Series II Suspension Lift from Rough Country says it needs to be set to .15 Toe In. Which the machine at the alignment shop said it was Not at that.

So should I just leave it be then?.. You guys have more experience in this than me. I just want to get rid of my slight shake after hitting pot holes and going over Rail Road Tracks... And I have Not installed my Dual Stabilizer yet or an Adjustable Track Bar. Was trying to see if I could fix that problem before adding this other stuff. I just don't want to mask a problem that I'm going to have later or have it sneak up on me.

Maybe I'm being too paranoid, but better safe than sorry. Right?
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Old May 2, 2012 | 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by ShakeNBake
Well I sure hope I don't have a bent tie rod. The only reason I keep bringing it up, is because my 3.5" Series II Suspension Lift from Rough Country says it needs to be set to .15 Toe In. Which the machine at the alignment shop said it was Not at that.
use the write-up in the link that was posted up to verify your toe setting. if you need to make an adjustment, the write-up will help you to do that. it really is that simple and you don't need a fancy machine to do it.

So should I just leave it be then?.. You guys have more experience in this than me. I just want to get rid of my slight shake after hitting pot holes and going over Rail Road Tracks... And I have Not installed my Dual Stabilizer yet or an Adjustable Track Bar. Was trying to see if I could fix that problem before adding this other stuff. I just don't want to mask a problem that I'm going to have later or have it sneak up on me.
hang on now, if you are getting a slight shake after hitting pot holes or going over rail road tracks, you need to be looking at areas that would cause that to happen. assuming that your toe is within spec, you need to verify that your track bar bolts are tightened to 125 ft lbs of torque. if they are, you need to check your ball joints as they could be wearing out. to do this right, you will need a dial indicator as the tollerances for it are measured within a hundredth of an inch. these two things are more likely to be your culprit.
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Old May 7, 2012 | 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by wayoflife
use the write-up in the link that was posted up to verify your toe setting. if you need to make an adjustment, the write-up will help you to do that. it really is that simple and you don't need a fancy machine to do it.



hang on now, if you are getting a slight shake after hitting pot holes or going over rail road tracks, you need to be looking at areas that would cause that to happen. assuming that your toe is within spec, you need to verify that your track bar bolts are tightened to 125 ft lbs of torque. if they are, you need to check your ball joints as they could be wearing out. to do this right, you will need a dial indicator as the tollerances for it are measured within a hundredth of an inch. these two things are more likely to be your culprit.

Thanks for the additional information. I've been reading up on it a lot today on how to fix it. I had my first DW this weekend after some rail road tracks at 35 MPH and a little drop off after. I knew it was just a matter of time til it happened since I could feel it trying to happen for a bit in that front right tire.

So going to make the trip to Lowes tonight and get the Grade 8 9/16 bolts with washers and see if I do that and get it all torqued back down to 125lbs if that eliminates the problem. Everything drove perfect before my lift, and still drives amazing except for huge potholes and rail road tracks, so I think the ball joints are still good. As long as I get the problem corrected quick.
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