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Upgrade Steering. Any ideas??

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Old Sep 16, 2013 | 10:01 AM
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Default Upgrade Steering. Any ideas??

I'm looking to upgrade my steering and don't really know where to start. I just want to get rid of this floaty steering. It's getting old fast. I was gonna do a chromoly tie rod and a new drag link. But don't know if I need the drag link flip or which tie rod will it with 15 in rims.

I have a JK 3.25 lift

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Old Sep 16, 2013 | 10:56 AM
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Flighty steering is typically a caster issue, fixed with control arms or drop brackets. Do you know your alignment soecs ?
Flipping the drag link and raising the track bar fixes bumpsteer and not what you're describing.
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Old Sep 16, 2013 | 11:03 AM
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I had issues running my synergy tie rod with 15's.
Some work and some don't. RK uses stock/Moog joints and should work.
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Old Sep 16, 2013 | 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by kjeeper10
Flighty steering is typically a caster issue, fixed with control arms or drop brackets. Do you know your alignment soecs ? Flipping the drag link and raising the track bar fixes bumpsteer and not what you're describing.
This ^^^^. If you're still running stock control arms, you'll see a nice improvement in steering feel if you replace the front lower control arms (LCA) with adjustables, and then set the caster properly. Your driveshaft will also appreciate that. Some CAR alignment shops might suggest using camber bolts: Don't! At least not if you take this Jeep off road, because they loosen up easily when bounced around. Do it properly with the front LCAs. Once you get them installed, here is how you can align them yourself ...

http://wayalife.com/showthread.php?3861-Basic-Do-it-Yourself-Jeep-JK-Wrangler-Front-End-Alignment
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Old Sep 16, 2013 | 11:43 AM
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A drag link flip and new tie rod would help firm up the steering and eliminate bump steer while reducing the amount of axle shift you have but will not get rid of the light steering feel. Like others have said, that is a lack of caster and can be solved with longer fixed arms or with a set of adjustable arms.
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Old Sep 16, 2013 | 12:04 PM
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" Originally Posted by Mark Doiron "If you're still running stock control arms, you'll see a nice improvement in steering feel if you replace the front lower control arms (LCA) with adjustables, and then set the caster properly. Your driveshaft will also appreciate that.

I don't mean to highjack, but would you explain how adjustable LCA's are beneficial to the driveshaft?

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Old Sep 16, 2013 | 12:27 PM
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Depending on your suspension set up, this will effect whether or not you should do a drag link flip kit, or just run something like the synergy drag link in the factory position, then I would also recommend a synergy tie rod set up, then if you have the cash throw a hydro assist kit on it and youll be set. Atleast for a while.
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Old Sep 16, 2013 | 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by DKehler
I don't mean to highjack, but would you explain how adjustable LCA's are beneficial to the driveshaft?
Caster and pinion angle are tied together. Adding a lift will effectively raise the pinion, which lowers the caster, and causes flightier steering. Using adj arms(either upper or lower, they do the same functions), you can raise the caster to get rid of flightiness, but at the same time you are lowering the pinion, causing steeper angles on the driveshaft joints, and possibly driveline vibrations. Depending on lift height, it's a balancing act to get decent caster and decent driveshaft angles.
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Old Sep 16, 2013 | 01:57 PM
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If your brave enough make your own hydro assist for a decent price
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Old Sep 16, 2013 | 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by nthinuf
Caster and pinion angle are tied together. Adding a lift will effectively raise the pinion, which lowers the caster, and causes flightier steering. Using adj arms(either upper or lower, they do the same functions), you can raise the caster to get rid of flightiness, but at the same time you are lowering the pinion, causing steeper angles on the driveshaft joints, and possibly driveline vibrations. Depending on lift height, it's a balancing act to get decent caster and decent driveshaft angles.
So LCA's are not so nice to your driveline? Would adding them cause premature failure on a stock driveline or does only extreme flex do that?
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