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Old Mar 28, 2015 | 01:10 PM
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I've had this idea of wanting to do something different with how the rear roll cage area was designed on the two door jeep wrangler. If one was to look at the current 2 door wrangler, the bar extended straight out past the speaker bar then has a near 90° bend down into the cargo area..

Why wasn't the four door wrangler version (45° angle) incorporated into this design.. and how hard would it be to cut/splice or rework this to suit my interest.. Has someone else done this.. what are the pro's & cons of doing something like this.. and would this need to be welded or a simple bolt on option installed.
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Old Mar 28, 2015 | 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by JeepersDigest
I've had this idea of wanting to do something different with how the rear roll cage area was designed on the two door jeep wrangler. If one was to look at the current 2 door wrangler, the bar extended straight out past the speaker bar then has a near 90° bend down into the cargo area..

Why wasn't the four door wrangler version (45° angle) incorporated into this design.. and how hard would it be to cut/splice or rework this to suit my interest.. Has someone else done this.. what are the pro's & cons of doing something like this.. and would this need to be welded or a simple bolt on option installed.
The rear on the 2 door is squared off to protect the rear passengers in a roll over. The 4 doors don't angle off til after the seating area
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Old Mar 28, 2015 | 04:15 PM
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My honest opinion about the stock cage is that it is pretty much there for the "feeling" of being safe. There are sport cages that are fairly cheap, but are probably a "one time use" type of system. I highly doubt you'd get through a roll over, be able to flip it right side up, and be able to drive away with a stock cage as a base. The stock cage is not only thin tubing, but is welded to the body and not the frame. If there is one thing that my Jeep has taught me, it is that I should do things right the first time and not cut corners (as tempting as it is.) Every corner I have cut has came back to bite me in the ass
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Old Mar 28, 2015 | 06:48 PM
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I dont think anyone makes a kit that does what your asking. There are a couple full cage kits but they are pretty much full replacement cages and are pretty technical in their install. It wouldnt be terribly hard to fab up some bars to tie into the existing but it would be custom work and would probably be expensive if you dont have the fab skills yourself. Not to mention you wouldnt gain a lot of protection from it. There are some nice bolt in kits that cage in the front and at least one C pillar kit (requires welding) that Im aware of but Im not aware of any that deal with the rear cargo area. Good luck on your search.
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Old Mar 29, 2015 | 04:01 AM
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Originally Posted by JeepersDigest
I've had this idea of wanting to do something different with how the rear roll cage area was designed on the two door jeep wrangler. If one was to look at the current 2 door wrangler, the bar extended straight out past the speaker bar then has a near 90° bend down into the cargo area.. Why wasn't the four door wrangler version (45° angle) incorporated into this design.. and how hard would it be to cut/splice or rework this to suit my interest.. Has someone else done this.. what are the pro's & cons of doing something like this.. and would this need to be welded or a simple bolt on option installed.
Another stupid thread by " The Angry Red Birdie"
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Old Mar 29, 2015 | 04:32 AM
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In order to respond to the legitimate questions and ignore the non relevant comments.. I've been given a chance to learn how to weld and I'm wondering if my suggested roll bar project would be too much of a project for a beginner.
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Old Mar 29, 2015 | 04:35 AM
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Welding on a cage is not the place to "LEARN" how to weld. Leave it alone or take it to someone that knows what they are doing.
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Old Mar 29, 2015 | 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by dr.dirty
Welding on a cage is not the place to "LEARN" how to weld. Leave it alone or take it to someone that knows what they are doing.
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Old Mar 29, 2015 | 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by dr.dirty
Welding on a cage is not the place to "LEARN" how to weld. Leave it alone or take it to someone that knows what they are doing.
Agreed completely. The only proper way to weld tubing joints is with machined bushings like what TMR sells, but not for the size of the JK tubing. Also this is not a spot for an inexperienced welder. Going to the trouble of doing this you would be just as well to build a full custom cage to the appearance you are looking for as long as you plan on not running a back seat. That 90 deg bend is what helps to save a passengers neck.
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