What is 'flighty' steering?
JK Enthusiast
Joined: Dec 2009
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From: Milledgeville, GA
thanks for the Response
Stock caster is in the low 4's. When you lift, the caster numbers go lower, (as you found out) and the handling gets 'flightier'. Live with the new handling, or add components to fix it. 
The options are:
Cam Bolts
Brackets
Longer/shorter 'fixed' arms
Adjustable arms
There are pro's and con's to each, so do a little research to decide which will fit your needs.
The options are:
Cam Bolts
Brackets
Longer/shorter 'fixed' arms
Adjustable arms
There are pro's and con's to each, so do a little research to decide which will fit your needs.
Thanks for the response
I have never done so much reading on a forum before and I waited and researched for a year before I pulled the trigger on this lift. Stayed with the 33's and 2.5" range hoping for around 3" only because of all the issues that come along with more than 3". The new handling isn't bad, but there sure seems to be an aweful lot of different opinions and results with the same setup with regard to handling 
I'm learning a new language when it comes to all this suspension stuff and like other newbies just want to make sure that something isn't "wrong" I'm gonna keep reading and learning and hoping that all the great people on this forum continue to be patient and offer understandable solutions for us to make informed decisions! 
New drive shaft and Lower Adj. Control Arms are next on the list of upgrades!!
JK Junkie
Joined: Dec 2007
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From: Amherst, Ohio
Keep your eyes peeled for a set of new/used adjustable control arms! check craigslist and our for sale sections here on the forum for great deals.
I would also imagine that this upset caster and flighty steering causes our Jeeps to be even more sensitive in little to high winds? I know if there's a 10mph wind outside, i'm getting blow around a little bit, god forbid those 30mph gustign winds days. New adj. LCA's will help this yes? i'm gonna instal my new TF arms after xmas.
I would also imagine that this upset caster and flighty steering causes our Jeeps to be even more sensitive in little to high winds? I know if there's a 10mph wind outside, i'm getting blow around a little bit, god forbid those 30mph gustign winds days. New adj. LCA's will help this yes? i'm gonna instal my new TF arms after xmas.
JK Enthusiast
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From: Charlotte NC
With the 35" tires your toe should be at 0 or maybe even slight toe out. I usually adjust mine in the driveway with a tape measure and try to get it at about 1/8" toe out. After you lift and add bigger tire, you can forget about the factory specs. Lower control arms would help a lot but in my opinion, not needed on a 2.5" lift
JK Super Freak
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From: MD
Originally Posted by Jeter
With the 35" tires your toe should be at 0 or maybe even slight toe out. I usually adjust mine in the driveway with a tape measure and try to get it at about 1/8" toe out. After you lift and add bigger tire, you can forget about the factory specs. Lower control arms would help a lot but in my opinion, not needed on a 2.5" lift
JK Enthusiast
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From: Some Place in Africa
With the 35" tires your toe should be at 0 or maybe even slight toe out. I usually adjust mine in the driveway with a tape measure and try to get it at about 1/8" toe out. After you lift and add bigger tire, you can forget about the factory specs. Lower control arms would help a lot but in my opinion, not needed on a 2.5" lift
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JK Enthusiast
Joined: Dec 2009
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From: Milledgeville, GA
[QUOTE=Pluke the 2;1995222]you shouldn't need new drive shafts...
I got 4 inches of lift in the front and at my stock rock rails the clearance went from 17" to 21"
Love the extra height and was hoping for it, but that definitely puts me in the grey area for drive shaft angle...The height at top of rear OE bumper went from 27 3/4" to 30 1/8". The tires accounted for a small amount of that but the angle is definitely steeper than the stock setup... LCA's are first on the list though.
I got 4 inches of lift in the front and at my stock rock rails the clearance went from 17" to 21"
Love the extra height and was hoping for it, but that definitely puts me in the grey area for drive shaft angle...The height at top of rear OE bumper went from 27 3/4" to 30 1/8". The tires accounted for a small amount of that but the angle is definitely steeper than the stock setup... LCA's are first on the list though.
JK Enthusiast
Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 441
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From: Some Place in Africa
I got 4 inches of lift in the front and at my stock rock rails the clearance went from 17" to 21" Love the extra height and was hoping for it, but that definitely puts me in the grey area for drive shaft angle...The height at top of rear OE bumper went from 27 3/4" to 30 1/8". The tires accounted for a small amount of that but the angle is definitely steeper than the stock setup... LCA's are first on the list though.
Love the extra height and was hoping for it, but that definitely puts me in the grey area for drive shaft angle...The height at top of rear OE bumper went from 27 3/4" to 30 1/8". The tires accounted for a small amount of that but the angle is definitely steeper than the stock setup... LCA's are first on the list though.But the general feeling on the drive shafts is that, why replace them if they still work.
JK Enthusiast
Joined: Dec 2009
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From: Milledgeville, GA
I'll not replace the driveshaft until I start having problems. I just know I will need to start saving! I hope I have the same experience!Thanks for all the advice and thoughts on everything Jeep JK
