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Old Jan 11, 2008 | 09:11 AM
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I'm looking at the Dual Force from Warn. I noticed however that I can get the 12000lb HD for the same price as the 9500lb HP.

They both weigh the same and are at least from what I can tell the same size.

The line speed is only a little less in the HD but it uses less Amps...

It's probably a little over kill, but it seems like it would be a better winch because of the lower power consumption and extra power if ever needed.

What's the running opinion? Thanks
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Old Jan 11, 2008 | 09:30 AM
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I had the same thought and the other night when I was at the 4Wheel Parts store I asked the guy who runs the shop the same question. His reply was basically that if you have too much winch and were doing a dead pull that you would bend the frame before you burnt out the winch. If I am wrong I am sure someone will correct me.
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Old Jan 11, 2008 | 09:34 AM
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Is your winch mounting position RATED to handle 12K lb?



Most bumpers are rated for 9k (like ARB), or upto 9,500 lb (Shrock, etc).

Plus, if you NEEDED an air compressor anyway...the Warn has a great flow rate.

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Old Jan 11, 2008 | 09:42 AM
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I'll be putting it on the Shrockworks Stubby.

So I guess that pretty much answers that question! I don't want the bumper to rip off my JK

Thanks!

While I'm on the subject, does anybody have a good idea about a tank to hold air mounted somewhere else instead of the Warn pumping the entire time?

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Is your winch mounting position RATED to handle 12K lb?



Most bumpers are rated for 9k (like ARB), or upto 9,500 lb (Shrock, etc).

Plus, if you NEEDED an air compressor anyway...the Warn has a great flow rate.


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Old Jan 11, 2008 | 10:31 AM
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I did that (Not with the warn...I used a separate compressor...), but its the same idea.

What I did was:

1) Run a one way valve out of a 150 psi compressor (So air can't leak back into the compressor), backwards), to a 4 gallon tank with a 150 psi working pressure.

2) The tank has 5 ports, so I used one (Bottom) for a drain valve to let out condensation once in a while)....for the other ports:

A hose going INTO the tank, from the compressor.

I also put in a pressure relief valve (A blow-off if the tank sat and got too hot, etc....)

A pressure switch that sends a signal if the pressure drops below 110 psi, or exceeds 150 psi...(so it can tell the compressor to kick on if the pressure dropped, and to take a rest if the tank is full)

A hose going out to deliver the pressurized goodness from the tank...to what I need air for.

3) I wired that pressure switch to a solinoid that kicked the compressor on/off.

4) I interupted that wiring with a toggle switch on the dash, so I can turn off the compressor when I know I don't need it to come on, like when I'm asleep, etc.

5) The compressor itself is connected to the solinoid and to a 100 amp relay connected to the battery. Its a 100% duty cycle, 4 cfm, 150 psi compressor, works great. ,

6) I mounted a quick-connect fitting to the front bumper, so I can hook up easily for tire filling or air tools, etc. (From the hose going OUT of the tank)



The basic flow is that if my toggle is on, the pressure switch tells the compressor to fill the tank, and the air goes from the compressor into the tank.

If I draw air out of the tank, like to air up after offroading, it kicks the compressor back on to keep topping the tank off.

If the tank reaches 150 psi, the limit of the compressor (To keep the compressor from vainly pumping against a futile resistance, etc....)...the compressor kicks off.

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The easy way to get all the above, plus diagrams showing how it all goes together...is to just go to 4x4rockshop, viar, or one of the other sites that supply OBA stuff....they typically have a package of parts that give you the entire set up....I found out after hitting a bunch of local supply places.
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Old Jan 11, 2008 | 10:34 AM
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TEEJ: Where did you mount the tank?
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Old Jan 11, 2008 | 10:48 AM
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That sounds cool. You need to do a write up!

Originally Posted by TEEJ
I did that (Not with the warn...I used a separate compressor...), but its the same idea.

What I did was:

1) Run a one way valve out of a 150 psi compressor (So air can't leak back into the compressor), backwards), to a 4 gallon tank with a 150 psi working pressure.

2) The tank has 5 ports, so I used one (Bottom) for a drain valve to let out condensation once in a while)....for the other ports:

A hose going INTO the tank, from the compressor.

I also put in a pressure relief valve (A blow-off if the tank sat and got too hot, etc....)

A pressure switch that sends a signal if the pressure drops below 110 psi, or exceeds 150 psi...(so it can tell the compressor to kick on if the pressure dropped, and to take a rest if the tank is full)

A hose going out to deliver the pressurized goodness from the tank...to what I need air for.

3) I wired that pressure switch to a solinoid that kicked the compressor on/off.

4) I interupted that wiring with a toggle switch on the dash, so I can turn off the compressor when I know I don't need it to come on, like when I'm asleep, etc.

5) The compressor itself is connected to the solinoid and to a 100 amp relay connected to the battery. Its a 100% duty cycle, 4 cfm, 150 psi compressor, works great. ,

6) I mounted a quick-connect fitting to the front bumper, so I can hook up easily for tire filling or air tools, etc. (From the hose going OUT of the tank)



The basic flow is that if my toggle is on, the pressure switch tells the compressor to fill the tank, and the air goes from the compressor into the tank.

If I draw air out of the tank, like to air up after offroading, it kicks the compressor back on to keep topping the tank off.

If the tank reaches 150 psi, the limit of the compressor (To keep the compressor from vainly pumping against a futile resistance, etc....)...the compressor kicks off.

______________________

The easy way to get all the above, plus diagrams showing how it all goes together...is to just go to 4x4rockshop, viar, or one of the other sites that supply OBA stuff....they typically have a package of parts that give you the entire set up....I found out after hitting a bunch of local supply places.
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