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Old Dec 13, 2014 | 02:04 PM
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OK i need help from the electrical experts out there as i am the worst when it comes to this stuff. Thats one reason why i bought the SPOD.

Heres the picture of how my SPOD is currently hooked up. I can re route the wires and play with them if needed but for now if this is ok i will leave it be.



I am trying to add the ARB twin compressor today as well. First i have to go out to the store and grab some terminals as the ARB does not include them. Sense i am running a 12V setup is it ok to put the 2 red power in the same terminal or should i just go ahead and do 2 terminals for the power ? Obviously the negative with the black and to the battery. Next question is how many terminals can i throw onto the same post or should i buy a kit that has numerous post to have one accessory per post?

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Old Dec 13, 2014 | 02:06 PM
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Also i will be adding a winch in the future as well so any ideas for that as well.
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Old Dec 13, 2014 | 02:26 PM
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Shit... i have 5 power wires on one post. I want to clean it up in the spring. Prolly going to make a terminal block
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Old Dec 13, 2014 | 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by tribulation138
Shit... i have 5 power wires on one post. I want to clean it up in the spring. Prolly going to make a terminal block

haha yeah i have a little OCD when it comes to how things are wired and look. I even trimmed the plastic piece against the fender out a bit so i can put all the wires to the SPOD behind that. Im about to run out to lowes and get my terminals for this compressor, then i need to add a quick disconnect for the hose but havent figured out where i want to mount that yet.
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Old Dec 14, 2014 | 03:27 AM
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As long as you don't exceed the capacity of the circuit you should be fine stacking them. The sPod comes with 40 amp relays and some 15 amp and 30 amp fuses. I have no idea what the arb draws but if it's more than 15 amps on each of the red wires I would split them as they would exceed 30 amps combined. An alternative would be to add a relay and use a single sPod switch as the trigger for the control circuit. It's also a good idea to replace the sPod circuit fuse with the fuse that comes with the accessory as then you are assured they are matched properly.

As for the winch, I used a Warn power interrupt since the sPod is not designed to handle that much current. I think I read somewhere that sPod has an accessory for handling winches but am not really sure. You could check their site.
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Old Dec 14, 2014 | 08:59 AM
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As long as you don't exceed the capacity of the circuit you should be fine stacking them. The sPod comes with 40 amp relays and some 15 amp and 30 amp fuses. I have no idea what the arb draws but if it's more than 15 amps on each of the red wires I would split them as they would exceed 30 amps combined. An alternative would be to add a relay and use a single sPod switch as the trigger for the control circuit. It's also a good idea to replace the sPod circuit fuse with the fuse that comes with the accessory as then you are assured they are matched properly.

As for the winch, I used a Warn power interrupt since the sPod is not designed to handle that much current. I think I read somewhere that sPod has an accessory for handling winches but am not really sure. You could check their site.
Yeah im wiring the ARB Twin directly to the battery and using the ARB harness i bought to power the relay so i shouldn't have problems with the amp draw. Now split them onto different post or you just mean use a terminal for each one and keep them on the same post? No fuse came with the ARB twin so i am unsure which fuse to use on the SPOD source but i think its 30A.
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Old Dec 14, 2014 | 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by mhockey9090
Yeah im wiring the ARB Twin directly to the battery and using the ARB harness i bought to power the relay so i shouldn't have problems with the amp draw. Now split them onto different post or you just mean use a terminal for each one and keep them on the same post? No fuse came with the ARB twin so i am unsure which fuse to use on the SPOD source but i think its 30A.
When you say it is directly to the battery, you mean the ground goes to the battery and the power wires (2?) are fed from the battery to a relay(s) and then out to the compressors? If so, then you are just looking for how to hook up pins 85 and 86 on the relay so you can use the spod to trigger the relay?

Here's a pic of how a relay is wired into an accessory circuit. Just to make sure we are on the same page. Just replace the 3 lights with 2 compressors.



Once you have installed the sPod, it contains the fuse, the relay, and the switch already. So to add an accessory when you already have the sPod, all you have to do is run the power and the ground from the accessory directly to the sPod. If the accessory draws more than the sPod can handle, you can still control it with the sPod by using the sPod to control the trigger circuit of a higher rated relay which would power the accessory. So in that case the accessory ground would go to the battery. The higher rated relay would have pin 30 connected to the battery, and pin 87 connected to the accessory positive. Pins 85 and 86 (the trigger circuit) on the higher rated relay would then connect to the sPod.

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Originally Posted by 14Sport
When you say it is directly to the battery, you mean the ground goes to the battery and the power wires (2?) are fed from the battery to a relay(s) and then out to the compressors? If so, then you are just looking for how to hook up pins 85 and 86 on the relay so you can use the spod to trigger the relay?

Here's a pic of how a relay is wired into an accessory circuit. Just to make sure we are on the same page. Just replace the 3 lights with 2 compressors.

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Once you have installed the sPod, it contains the fuse, the relay, and the switch already. So to add an accessory when you already have the sPod, all you have to do is run the power and the ground from the accessory directly to the sPod. If the accessory draws more than the sPod can handle, you can still control it with the sPod by using the sPod to control the trigger circuit of a higher rated relay which would power the accessory. So in that case the accessory ground would go to the battery. The higher rated relay would have pin 30 connected to the battery, and pin 87 connected to the accessory positive. Pins 85 and 86 (the trigger circuit) on the higher rated relay would then connect to the sPod.


I think i grabbed what you are trying to say.

Yes the compressor has the 2 powers ( RED ) with an inline 40A Maxi fuse and then a black/white and black cable that goes to the negative ( according to directions sense i am running it by 12V ). The compressor also has another harness which i connected to the ARB harness i bought that will go directly to the SPOD. So the SPOD will turn on and off the compressor but the main power source for it is coming from the battery so i wont go over the 30A rating per switch on the SPOD.

Also which fuse needs to be in the SPOD for the ARB Twin ?
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Originally Posted by mhockey9090
I think i grabbed what you are trying to say.

Yes the compressor has the 2 powers ( RED ) with an inline 40A Maxi fuse and then a black/white and black cable that goes to the negative ( according to directions sense i am running it by 12V ). The compressor also has another harness which i connected to the ARB harness i bought that will go directly to the SPOD. So the SPOD will turn on and off the compressor but the main power source for it is coming from the battery so i wont go over the 30A rating per switch on the SPOD.

Also which fuse needs to be in the SPOD for the ARB Twin ?
That sounds right. The additional harness you bought should have a relay. The compressors should be powered directly from the battery through the relay. The trigger circuit for the relay is the sPod. Since you are not powering the compressors directly from the sPod you do not need to move the fuse. The trigger circuit for the relay runs on milliamps so you could use one of the 15 amp fuses on the sPod. Did the black/white ground wire come with the separate harness you got for the sPod? If so, that is the ground for the trigger circuit and can go either to the battery or the negative in the sPod. The trigger circuit wires should be a very small gauge, like 18 or 20. The power wires will be much thicker.
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Heres how i have it set up for now. Re routing of the quick disconnect and adding a tank will come later. SPOD also sent me a different bracket that does not fit with the ARB Twin so we are working that issue now to get the other one they always have pictured and on videos.



Heres the 2 power that go to the battery with the terminals and shrink wrap i put on.



Heres the Black/White and the Black ( which i think this is the ground ) that are crimped together on the same terminal with shrink wrap.




Heres the ARB harness hooked up to the harness from the compresor. Don't have locker at the moment so they are folded back and taped up. There is NOT a relay from the end of the power and neg to the compressor. But i'm assuming the relay will be the SPOD itself.




After talking it looks like i am good to go on hooking everything up and moving onto the leaking test
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