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Big Problem installing Benchmark Oil Pan.

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Old Aug 10, 2010 | 07:17 PM
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So thread says it all, I started out installing the Benchmark oil pan concluding that it didn't have any holes in it to the best of my knowledge(different thread). Followed the write up exactly as it's written. This is where the shit hits the fan, upon re-installing the new oil pan I was hand tightening the OEM screws as it says to and two of them just keep spinning. I readjusted the new pan and tried again swapping the screws out for different ones... same problem, still spins. Upon closer inspection the threads are stripped?!?!?!? from hand tightening??? is the aluminum that weak? Break out the tap and thread and go up one size to an M7 taps clean and threads clean. Go to tighten them town to the spec and spins again!!! FUCK! I'm up shits creek now and don't have an oil pan on the Jeep and don't have any idea what to do. I'm about to call the flatbed and have someone else deal with this mess, because I feel like it's slipping past my ability to be fixed.... Any words of wisdom or should I just get it towed and have my Mechanic fix my mess.
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Old Aug 10, 2010 | 07:56 PM
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Thats not good. You prolly tightened your re-tap too much. The stock ones may have been stripped from the factory. Every oil pan I've drooped, I just snugged the bolts.
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Old Aug 10, 2010 | 08:00 PM
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The taps were "just tight" not even to the factory spec. I'm gonna deal with this mess in the morning. Maybe run helicoils up through them... Gotta get fixed for this weekend. I'm positive the factory ones were shot since they just spun from hand tightening.
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Old Aug 10, 2010 | 08:05 PM
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Helicoil is your best bet at this point. Its actually a easy fix. Best of luck bro.
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Old Aug 10, 2010 | 08:37 PM
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Sounds like the original M6 threads may have been in bad shape from the factory. The factory torque spec for those are 105 in/lbs (9 ft/lbs ).

A few options that are pretty manageable at home:

1. Pull off the aluminum casting and tap & helicoil it on the bench.

2. If the 2 bad holes are not next to each other, you could skip them and as long as you use good RTV like Permatex "The Right Stuff" it's almost certainly not going to leak.

3. See if you can use an M8 self-tapping bolt and run it in.

I'll keep thinking and see if I have any other ideas.
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Old Aug 10, 2010 | 08:42 PM
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Also, just a quick tip -

When using a tap in soft aluminum, try to use a roll tap, not the more common cut tap.

A roll tap "forms" threads, a cut tap "cuts" threads.

Example of a roll tap:



Example of a cut tap:


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Old Aug 10, 2010 | 08:53 PM
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I don't know if this would work but could you use a bit of JB weld? I had the same problem with a water pump and the JB weld worked great.

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Old Aug 11, 2010 | 04:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Benchmark Designs Inc.
Sounds like the original M6 threads may have been in bad shape from the factory. The factory torque spec for those are 105 in/lbs (9 ft/lbs ).

A few options that are pretty manageable at home:

1. Pull off the aluminum casting and tap & helicoil it on the bench.

2. If the 2 bad holes are not next to each other, you could skip them and as long as you use good RTV like Permatex "The Right Stuff" it's almost certainly not going to leak.

3. See if you can use an M8 self-tapping bolt and run it in.

I'll keep thinking and see if I have any other ideas.
thanks, the 2 bad holes happen to be right next to each other so it has to get tapped one way or another.

I'm gonna try helicoil first...
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Old Aug 11, 2010 | 04:43 AM
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Originally Posted by rubydak
I don't know if this would work but could you use a bit of JB weld? I had the same problem with a water pump and the JB weld worked great.
Thats a good idea. That shit is awesome.
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Old Aug 11, 2010 | 04:56 AM
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I didn't want to use JB weld because it's not the easiest fix to reverse if ever needed. That would be a lst ditch option.

And as for that Aluminum housing it looks like it goes back into the trans and I'm not exactly sure how that comes off without pulling the trans apart
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