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Pitman steering arm with lifted jeeps...

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Old Sep 28, 2013 | 11:36 AM
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There are hunreds of lift kits out there, different combos and such, but what caught my eye was: I know the higher you go the more you need to modify, replace stock arms and such. Worked on a jeep today and she has a 3in lift shocks and springs r only replaced, she complains about steering so i install a sterring stabilizer which helped. It caught my eye that the steering bar that connects to the steering arm is at a huge angle from the lift. The steering arm is stock, as I recall on my lift i had an exteded steering arm for a 3 1/2 in lift. Replacing this arm would it help with her steering?? Death wobble thanks,
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Old Sep 28, 2013 | 11:47 AM
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What was the steering complaint? Flightiness? Bump steer? Loose?

If the lift did not include some form of caster correction, that is the first item to look into. Cam bolts, drop brackets, longer/shorter fixed control arms, adjustable control arms. There are pro's/con's to each, as well as a decent price difference, so explain the options to her.

For the angles, there are a few options. A Drop pitman w/ trackbar bracket is the least expensive, but a drag link flip/high steer is generally considered to be a better way to address it. A flip will move the axle end of the drag link up on top of the steering knuckle and also adds a relo bracket for the track bar. Some kits will move the trackbar up from the axle, some will lower from the frame. Adding a raised trackbar bracket will affect the roll center, so if she goes this route, you will also want to add a rear bracket to raise the rear roll center at the same time.

For your comment about replacing just the pitman arm - you want the drag link and track bar to stay roughly parallel to each other. IF you replace the stock pitman with a drop pitman, you need to relocate the trackbar at the same time to keep them parallel.

For the death wobble comment, go up to the writeups area and open the first thread stickied at the top.

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Old Sep 28, 2013 | 12:23 PM
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A drop pitman arm is a bad idea for a JK. It puts a lot of stress on the steering which is already weak.
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Old Sep 28, 2013 | 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Ncb
A drop pitman arm is a bad idea for a JK. It puts a lot of stress on the steering which is already weak.
Her jeep is a wrangler X TJ would it still be a good idea for a drop pitman?

Also i was going to install one on mine, what wiould b a different alternitive for my jk? it was included in my lift kit along with alxe arm bars

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TJ's have a different steering setup, y-link or something like that? A lot of TJ people convert to a crossover steering setup, which is what JK's have. You might have better luck with TJ issues on a TJ board.

The alternative to a drop pitman is noted in my previous post. Drag link flip / high steer.

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Old Sep 28, 2013 | 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by nthinuf
TJ's have a different steering setup, y-link or something like that? A lot of TJ people convert to a crossover steering setup, which is what JK's have. You might have better luck with TJ issues on a TJ board.

The alternative to a drop pitman is noted in my previous post. Drag link flip / high steer.
Thanks apreciate it now i know what to do with my JK!
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Old Sep 28, 2013 | 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Chevyguy68
Thanks apreciate it now i know what to do with my JK!
Lol, you may want to do more research into the various steering and caster options to help determine the problems and to see what fits your actual needs, rather than just throwing money at it. (adding a new steering stabilizer was very likely just throwing money at it, not correcting the underlying issue...)
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Old Sep 28, 2013 | 09:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Ncb
A drop pitman arm is a bad idea for a JK. It puts a lot of stress on the steering which is already weak.
No doubt you think jeep would fix the gear box already. My brothers Bronco has had a drop pitman arm on it for over a decade and the gear box was made in 1974 and it has less slack in it than my 2011 jk.
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