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Old Apr 19, 2008 | 09:53 AM
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The RC Lift with shocks is $285 Shipped and the Teraflex is $400.00 Shipped with Shocks. They seem the same, but why is Tera more money are their any differences?
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Old Apr 19, 2008 | 04:51 PM
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Teraflex gets you swaybar links for the back, you can move the OE back ones to the front. Teraflex has brake line bracket extentions and new bumpstops for front and back.
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Old Apr 19, 2008 | 04:53 PM
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TF is much better. I believe you get the disconects too. they are worth it. If not you should order them.
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Old Apr 19, 2008 | 05:42 PM
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the rear sway bar links are vital IMO. since you don't disco the rear it is nice to have the few extra inches of flex caused by adding the longer sway bar links.
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Old Apr 20, 2008 | 05:11 AM
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RC lift is better, has better shocks and has been designed not to need the extras the TF BB needs.... and BEST OF ALL, ITS BETTER VALUE FOR MONEY DUE TO THEIR PROMOTION!!!!

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Old Apr 20, 2008 | 09:53 AM
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They are both good BB's...but:

Remember - the JK sits 2.5" taller with a 2.5" coil spacer lift.....period.

The axles shift over when you raise the frame up from the axles....PERIOD.

If the droop is far enough to require the brake lines to reach further than they can stock...then, you HAVE to relocate the brackets/make some slack for the wires and lines to reach, PERIOD.

"Designing" a lift to not "Need" something that has NOTHING to do with the lift brand, and EVERYTHING to do with the physics of the new distances involved....merely means it has less performance if it doesn't need something that compensates for the extra performance.

Look at the pics of what the RC lift part consists of...coil spacers. Hell of a "Design". (Same as everyone else)

With the coil spacers come either a way to lower the OEM shock mounts (Like every one else...), or, the option to substitute longer shocks (Like everyone else)



The 2.2 performance shock option on the RC looks great...but, there are no extended/compressed lengths given for the upgraded performance shocks.

The RTI ramp pics on the site show the rear tires never reached the ramp end, so its RTI is less than 1,000....but it does look like the tires stuff, and the droop looks OK.

As TF didn't give RTI scores either, its hard to say what's "Better"...but, its easy to see the extra $ is for extra parts.

RC DOES say that you might get rubbing in the SAME places TF added parts to avoid rub, so, really, its just physics vs marketing.



Hell, you CAN just buy the RC or TF shocks, and add them to any lift good....or buy the TF parts that prevent the rub that RC says you'll get under full articulation, etc.



I'm not sure if I've ever had a lift made all from one company anyway.

I LIKE to mix and match to get whatI want.

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Old Apr 20, 2008 | 10:15 AM
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you said:...."The 2.2 performance shock option on the RC looks great...but, there are no extended/compressed lengths given for the upgraded performance shocks"

Put it this way..... they use the same shocks on the 4 inch lift aswell...so the shocks have much better extension than the TF ones. When it comes down to it, its all in the shocks, the spacers are all the same ...just pieces of plastic like you say...

Rough Country have been in the biz for 30 years designing offroad accessories...Id go their lift anyday based on cost AND performance...

Also, the brake relocation brackets arent needed and RC offer extended breaklines for $2 or something, but arent needed either since there is more than enough slack on the standard ones...

Mine rides MUCH better than stock after the RC lift with performace 2.2 shocks


there you go...just the facts...just by the picture on the RC website you can clearly see the amount of flex it has... Show me a TF 2.5 BB flex like that... the proof is in the pudding!!

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Old Apr 20, 2008 | 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by ksk
you said:...."The 2.2 performance shock option on the RC looks great...but, there are no extended/compressed lengths given for the upgraded performance shocks"

Put it this way..... they use the same shocks on the 4 inch lift aswell...so the shocks have much better extension than the TF ones. When it comes down to it, its all in the shocks, the spacers are all the same ...just pieces of plastic like you say...

Rough Country have been in the biz for 30 years designing offroad accessories...Id go their lift anyday based on cost AND performance...

Also, the brake relocation brackets arent needed and RC offer extended breaklines for $2 or something, but arent needed either since there is more than enough slack on the standard ones...

Mine rides MUCH better than stock after the RC lift with performace 2.2 shocks


there you go...just the facts...just by the picture on the RC website you can clearly see the amount of flex it has... Show me a TF 2.5 BB flex like that... the proof is in the pudding!!

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So even RC's 4" lift kit doesn't droop enough to stretch the stock brake lines?

So sad.

And, TF ALSO uses the 2.5" BB shocks for their 4" lift, so that's the same too.

In short, the claims prove nothing....either way.

They both use the same shocks for the 2.5 and 4" lifts, they both have spring retainers built into the pieces of plastic/coil spacers, etc.

One says you might get rub (RC), the other includes parts (At extra cost over RC), that PREVENT that rub.

TF's shocks have extended/compressed lengths long enough to require the brake lines be re-routed/slack created.....and, you SAY that RC doesn't.

So, according to you, and yourclaim that the travel is within the stock brake line's limits,...the RC shocks are not as long as TF's, AND, that TF's 2.5" shocks are LONGER than RC's 4" lift kit shocks....do I have that right?



I'm NOT saying one is better or worse, that usually has more to do with the terrain, etc....just pointing out the observations so people can separate facts from marketing.
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Old Apr 20, 2008 | 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by TEEJ
TF ALSO uses the 2.5" BB shocks for their 4" lift, so that's the same too.
No, Teraflex uses different shocks for 4" lift. The part number and compressed/extended lenghts are different. Teraflex uses the same shocks for 2.5" BB and 3" Coil lift, but not for 4" lift...

Anybody knows the specifications of the RC 2.2 shocks???...
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Old Apr 20, 2008 | 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by planman
It is true that with the RC lift, you do not need extended bumpstops because their shocks have integrated bumpstops.
i would be careful with that statement. bumpstops in/on a shock dont compensate for the original or replacement bumpstops. there can be alot of force in bottoming out, and if you transfer that into the shocks, then you may end up bending them. or worst case scenario... bending/breaking the shock mounts.
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