I'm debating on trying it with only 35s. I've got the flex just wondering if I have the clearance under the axles

 

I think my short wheel base would be a little iffy on that drop down lol. Looks fun tho! Y'all out west are some lucky guys with that terrain!

 

My .02


Spotter is NEVER to blame. Beer is never to blame. Driver is always at fault.

Spotters are a tool, no more, no less and IMO, its rare to find someone that actually know how to spot.

A rig on 33s can do it.

 

Very very true. I think they were all in over their heads here. Maybe they just had a bad day, who knows.

 

I do agree the spotter is not at fault...

But a spotter who knows what they are dong is always nice to have. And could have gotten him out of a situation like this. Or maybe the spotter would have been good enough to walk the trail first and say, "you'll be in over your head if you try that."

And of course drinking on the trail never helps. Leave that for the campfire later. Especially on this gnarly of a trail.

 

And know your equipment well enough to know what it can and can't do. Or know yourself well enough to know what you can handle. Because I know in my case my jeep can handle more than I can as a driver. But I know not to get into situations such as this. Planning before driving is always a good idea.

 

Depending on how I'm feeling at calico on the 9th, I might attempt going up it. I think with a 2 dr and on 35s I should have the belly clearance. And it would give me a reason to build a new beefy tie rod and to weld together some diff covers.

 

I have to respectfully disagree with this. When acting as a spotter one takes on the responsibility for guiding the driver who is by all accounts almost blind to the terrain in front of him, the driver must trust the spotter to set him up on the right line and look out for issues that arise as the Jeep is attempting to clear an obstacle. That being said it does do relieve the driver from making the final decision to proceed beyond his comfort zone or to get out and survey the terrain for himself.

As a driver I have had spotters tell me I was through an obstacle when I was clearly not, and as a result sustained damage. Do I blame them yes, but I blame myself more for trusting someone I have never had spot for me.

There is a lot of trust involved in Jeeping, if one takes on the responsibility to spot he better know what he is doing and understand that each Jeep is set up different(?) and not any one
line works for all.

 

I have been told before "thanks for the spot" and I have been told before " you almost bought me a new mirror." I try to wait until I'm asked now before I help for reasons all my own. As far as I'm concerned, now that my wife drives as well as she does, I'm the best spotter in the world when it comes to my jeep...

 

Chuck you do have a natural eye for spotting. And you're more than welcome to spot me any time.