lol, you got to have a strong arm but you are correct!

 

Thanks for the info, ill look it up.

 

on this run do we need lockers because i dont have lockers i do have a 4in lift on 35in tires but no lockers

 

It was mentioned at the beginning of this thread that you probably do not need lockers, I have no lockers and will most likely be going. Im sure if we run into any problems their will be someone their to lend a helping hand

 

Caroline, John Bull is an awesome trail and currently my favorite. However, it is a tough trail. I suspect it will be tougher right now because very few people have been through it yet this season to stack rocks and make it easier. Vince and I have run it twice, including once in the dark. As you know, Vince has (actually had) a stock Rubicon, which has 32" tires, 2 lockers, and rock guards, and he used all of them frequently. He made it through without any damage, but it was difficult and exhausting (even for him). We had to pull him out of two spots, including:



Vince also made a short video here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d21qDlyxQuw.

For what it is worth, the people behind the Big Bear Forest Fest rate John Bull as "hard" and require a minimum of 32" tires and 2 lockers.

Hope that helps you make a decision.

 

Cool video Dave, thanks.

 

Hey Doug! You going?

 

Took the kids to Big Bear in that area with the swing (off-shoot trail headed to John Bull's Gate Keeper).

 

Got you down as going!

 

after watching the video i want to go even more. but i hope im not in the way to much with me not having front lockers.