NEW ORA Night Guard LED Headlights
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We have confirmed the Truck Lite brand anti flicker harness works with these headlights, however we had to splice them in to work. However if everything goes as planed we are on track to have our own anti flicker harness available in the next few days.
We have confirmed the Truck Lite brand anti flicker harness works with these headlights, however we had to splice them in to work. However if everything goes as planed we are on track to have our own anti flicker harness available in the next few days.
One of the first reviews on these was posted by forum member JAM85!
Check it out here;
https://www.jk-forum.com/forums/jk-s...talled-316685/
Check it out here;
https://www.jk-forum.com/forums/jk-s...talled-316685/
One of the first reviews on these was posted by forum member JAM85!
Check it out here;
https://www.jk-forum.com/forums/jk-s...talled-316685/
Check it out here;
https://www.jk-forum.com/forums/jk-s...talled-316685/
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Low Beam:
Dan, my intention is constructive, and based on knowledge & experience in both lighting and start up developments, so please take it with this intention in mind.
First, it's a bit hard to assess the full potential of the lights from these stills & video, because they seem to be aimed pretty low.
Second reservation is that cameras tend to increase contrast. This means that darker areas may look darker than they are in reality, compared to brighter areas.
Because of these two reasons, I may be somewhat off, and the lights may be better than what the pics & video show.
The High lights pic shows a very bright hot spot right in front of the Jeep, which disturbs seeing further away - which is the very purpose of high lights.
However, I have yet to see how it looks with properly aimed lights.
The low lights, too, don't light far enough.
Beam width of both hi & low is a bit narrow, not enough light to the sides.
Even with the pretty low aiming, there's a dark area right in front of the Jeep, which will be longer when the lights are aimed higher.
Overall, the images show something that's expected from multiple & similar reflectors, arranged in (approximately) a circle -- a circular light spread.
Here comes in R&D, and 'generation II'... In order to make the light spread start nearer the front of the Jeep, go further to the sides, and "smear" the high light hot spot over a larger area, two things can be done.
One, is to have the reflectors sit on a horizontal arc - a curve - so the outer reflectors are pointed more to the sides, and those more to the center don't all 'look' forward but form a bit of a horizontal arc too.
The other and more complicated approach, is using reflectors with varying parabolas.
Both methods can be combined.
If you go this way, you can eventually have the best headlights in the market, including TL and JWS.
Again, camera limitation may have shown a distorted balance between brighter and darker areas.
The way to bypass this problem is somewhat tricky, but possible: Taking the pics in twilight time, so there's enough ambient light to reduce the contrast issue, yet weak enough light to show what the headlights do.
I'm very curious to see what these lights do when properly aimed.
Last edited by GJeep; Jan 31, 2015 at 01:59 PM.
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Dan, my intention is constructive, and based on knowledge & experience in both lighting and start up developments, so please take it with this intention in mind.
First, it's a bit hard to assess the full potential of the lights from these stills & video, because they seem to be aimed pretty low.
Second reservation is that cameras tend to increase contrast. This means that darker areas may look darker than they are in reality, compared to brighter areas.
Because of these two reasons, I may be somewhat off, and the lights may be better than what the pics & video show.
The High lights pic shows a very bright hot spot right in front of the Jeep, which disturbs seeing further away - which is the very purpose of high lights.
However, I have yet to see how it looks with properly aimed lights.
The low lights, too, don't light far enough.
Beam width of both hi & low is a bit narrow, not enough light to the sides.
Even with the pretty low aiming, there's a dark area right in front of the Jeep, which will be longer when the lights are aimed higher.
Overall, the images show something that's expected from multiple & similar reflectors, arranged in (approximately) a circle -- a circular light spread.
Here comes in R&D, and 'generation II'... In order to make the light spread start nearer the front of the Jeep, go further to the sides, and "smear" the high light hot spot over a larger area, two things can be done.
One, is to have the reflectors sit on a horizontal arc - a curve - so the outer reflectors are pointed more to the sides, and those more to the center don't all 'look' forward but form a bit of a horizontal arc too.
The other and more complicated approach, is using reflectors with varying parabolas.
Both methods can be combined.
If you go this way, you can eventually have the best headlights in the market, including TL and JWS.
Again, camera limitation may have shown a distorted balance between brighter and darker areas.
The way to bypass this problem is somewhat tricky, but possible: Taking the pics in twilight time, so there's enough ambient light to reduce the contrast issue, yet weak enough light to show what the headlights do.
I'm very curious to see what these lights do when properly aimed.
Dan, my intention is constructive, and based on knowledge & experience in both lighting and start up developments, so please take it with this intention in mind.
First, it's a bit hard to assess the full potential of the lights from these stills & video, because they seem to be aimed pretty low.
Second reservation is that cameras tend to increase contrast. This means that darker areas may look darker than they are in reality, compared to brighter areas.
Because of these two reasons, I may be somewhat off, and the lights may be better than what the pics & video show.
The High lights pic shows a very bright hot spot right in front of the Jeep, which disturbs seeing further away - which is the very purpose of high lights.
However, I have yet to see how it looks with properly aimed lights.
The low lights, too, don't light far enough.
Beam width of both hi & low is a bit narrow, not enough light to the sides.
Even with the pretty low aiming, there's a dark area right in front of the Jeep, which will be longer when the lights are aimed higher.
Overall, the images show something that's expected from multiple & similar reflectors, arranged in (approximately) a circle -- a circular light spread.
Here comes in R&D, and 'generation II'... In order to make the light spread start nearer the front of the Jeep, go further to the sides, and "smear" the high light hot spot over a larger area, two things can be done.
One, is to have the reflectors sit on a horizontal arc - a curve - so the outer reflectors are pointed more to the sides, and those more to the center don't all 'look' forward but form a bit of a horizontal arc too.
The other and more complicated approach, is using reflectors with varying parabolas.
Both methods can be combined.
If you go this way, you can eventually have the best headlights in the market, including TL and JWS.
Again, camera limitation may have shown a distorted balance between brighter and darker areas.
The way to bypass this problem is somewhat tricky, but possible: Taking the pics in twilight time, so there's enough ambient light to reduce the contrast issue, yet weak enough light to show what the headlights do.
I'm very curious to see what these lights do when properly aimed.
The pictures especially do not do justice on the distance part of your observation. And as you mentioned toward the end of your post, taking pictures to exactly mimic the human eye is not an easy task by any means. Also, the roads here are actually white from all the road salt, making road pictures even harder to get accurately. Optimally we could show these in person to each of our customers to show their output, but obviously that isn't feasible.
An update on the flicker harnesses for everyone;
We can get a harness that are around $20 that is a resistor type harness. However resistors give off high amounts of heat and even though other companies are selling these we have decided not to.
The next method is a direct wiring harness to the battery using the current from the factory wiring to actuate the relays. However the flaw in this is the complication. There are too many failure points; KISS.
So it comes down to a capacitor style harness. We are working in this direction, and even though it may take longer than previously thought, we feel it is the best and safest way to eliminate any flicker! Also, thank you to member "reidsjk" for helping us decide on which style to pursue.
We can get a harness that are around $20 that is a resistor type harness. However resistors give off high amounts of heat and even though other companies are selling these we have decided not to.
The next method is a direct wiring harness to the battery using the current from the factory wiring to actuate the relays. However the flaw in this is the complication. There are too many failure points; KISS.
So it comes down to a capacitor style harness. We are working in this direction, and even though it may take longer than previously thought, we feel it is the best and safest way to eliminate any flicker! Also, thank you to member "reidsjk" for helping us decide on which style to pursue.
Last edited by Off Road Additions - Dan; Jan 31, 2015 at 05:30 PM.


