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Old Nov 7, 2012 | 07:01 PM
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Jerry do you have any update on the official flicker-free Truck-lite harness for the JK? Many of us are holding back on ordering until we hear of a solution from the vendor.

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Old Nov 7, 2012 | 08:27 PM
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Put mine in today. 2010. Even with having all of my accessories hooked up to the sPOD, I still have a flicker and the "x" pattern. Overall I'm happy with the bright, and wide pattern they put out, but I no have to find solution for the flicker. Anyone know of a solution that doesn't require hooking up directly to the battery? If I cant find a solution for a reasonable cost (~$100 is NOT acceptable), Ill be sending these back to the vendor and going with something more complete.
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Old Nov 8, 2012 | 03:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Cedo Nulli
Looking at upgrading to the Truck-Lite's soon. I've read the flicker is caused by the CANBUS because of the DRLs? I've got an '08 Rubicon Unlimited, I don't think I've even got DRLs...either that or I've somehow disabled them.

So, am I supposed to have DRLs? and two, if I don't have DRLs will I not have a flickering problem?

Other than the SMS harness, anyone seen/used these? http://w w w.tlg-auto.com/JEEP_JK_Wrangler_LED_Headlight_Harness_p/jeep001.htm
Jeep uses the canbus due to the fact that they can use one bulb for both DRL's and headlights. It was cheaper for them to go this route. The reason being because in Canada DRL's are required on new vehicles. The DRL's themselves have nothing to do with being able to use the Trucklites. You can use them. However you may still get a flicker. The SMS harness takes care of this by bypassing the pulse the Canbus sends out through the main harness. What's nice is that the SMS harness is set up so you can still use the factory headlight switch and the turn signal stalk. Hope this helps and explains a little? Once again the trucklites aren't the faulty issue at hand, it's Jeeps route of going Canbus to be able to use one bulb for DRLs. The trucklites are very nice and built to Mil-spec standards, Ie, able to withstand the abuse they get in the field and in combat zones around the globe.
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Old Nov 8, 2012 | 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by HawesEA2
Jeep uses the canbus due to the fact that they can use one bulb for both DRL's and headlights. It was cheaper for them to go this route. The reason being because in Canada DRL's are required on new vehicles. The DRL's themselves have nothing to do with being able to use the Trucklites. You can use them. However you may still get a flicker. The SMS harness takes care of this by bypassing the pulse the Canbus sends out through the main harness. What's nice is that the SMS harness is set up so you can still use the factory headlight switch and the turn signal stalk. Hope this helps and explains a little? Once again the trucklites aren't the faulty issue at hand, it's Jeeps route of going Canbus to be able to use one bulb for DRLs. The trucklites are very nice and built to Mil-spec standards, Ie, able to withstand the abuse they get in the field and in combat zones around the globe.
I think that if a company advertises a product for use in a specific application, they need to make sure it works without issue. Leaving it to the consumer to go find a harness isn't acceptable.

Fortunately Truck-lite is doing whats right and researching a solution, but they set a ETA of October and there haven't been any updates.
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Old Nov 8, 2012 | 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by zxsaint
I think that if a company advertises a product for use in a specific application, they need to make sure it works without issue. Leaving it to the consumer to go find a harness isn't acceptable.

Fortunately Truck-lite is doing whats right and researching a solution, but they set a ETA of October and there haven't been any updates.
I in no way am trying to insult anyone's intelligence by what I am about to say, so please don't take offense. However, this company has not advertised this product for a specific application. If you do some research and go to their website and look, you will see that it's advertised as a 7in universal application. Meaning vehicles that utilize a 7in round headlight can utilize these. I see nothing stating that this was made for Jeep. In case you have a problem finding the page I looked at I will provide a link: Truck-Lite - Catalog Product : 7'' Round LED Headlamp, Complex Reflector Optics Design

I am sure the 'UNIVERSAL' lights work perfectly in vehicles not utilizing a CANBUS system, however, Jeep does use one and it does affect the product. I love my truck lite`s. I didn't mind spending a little cash out of pocket to make a UNIVERSAL product fit my SPECIFIC Canbus problem vehicle. I just hate seeing people bash a great product for something that isn't the company's fault. Will they fix the issue of the Canbus, probably, but it's most likely going to entail a harness with relays! If you talk to the guy that builds the harness that fixes the Canbus flicker issue, he will tell you that the money in parts alone to construct the harness is what makes the harness the dollar amount that it is. Therefore, anyone hoping for a CHEAP fix I can honestly say, I don't think any fix is going to be cheap. I am not an electrical engineer, but I do talk to the right people that know what they are talking about. If you're concerned with the flicker and are too cheap to buy a good harness than go buy another product. I honestly believe that TruckLites solution is going to be a harness just like the one you get from SMS, but hey, I sprung on a pair and I'm extremely happy being able to see perfectly at night.

Once again, not trying to bash anyone, just getting some facts straight! And to TruckLites, thanks for making an awesome product that wasn't specifically made for a Jeep, yet allowing consumers the chance to install it in a universal 7in fitment. They look great on a Jeep.
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Old Nov 8, 2012 | 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by HawesEA2
I see nothing stating that this was made for Jeep. In case you have a problem finding the page I looked at I will provide a link: Truck-Lite - Catalog Product : 7'' Round LED Headlamp, Complex Reflector Optics Design
You're right, my mistake. Truck-lite isn't to blame here. The resellers like Northridge4x4 & Quadratec are the ones advertising the product for use with the Jeep and they should be made aware of the issue.

Truck-Lite LED Headlamp Kit for 07-13 Jeep® Wrangler & Wrangler Unlimited JK - Quadratec

BTW, you should know it's not about being cheap. It's about purchasing a fairly expensive product for the purpose of having something of quality and then experiencing dissapointment when it fails to perform as advertised. Having to track down the harness and wait for another part and install it twice isn't as satisfying as having it work great the first time.

I'd rather buy both the light and harness from a single source that can promise it works, even if I have to pay more.
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Old Nov 12, 2012 | 06:41 AM
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Originally Posted by zxsaint
You're right, my mistake. Truck-lite isn't to blame here. The resellers like Northridge4x4 & Quadratec are the ones advertising the product for use with the Jeep and they should be made aware of the issue.

Truck-Lite LED Headlamp Kit for 07-13 Jeep® Wrangler & Wrangler Unlimited JK - Quadratec

BTW, you should know it's not about being cheap. It's about purchasing a fairly expensive product for the purpose of having something of quality and then experiencing dissapointment when it fails to perform as advertised. Having to track down the harness and wait for another part and install it twice isn't as satisfying as having it work great the first time.

I'd rather buy both the light and harness from a single source that can promise it works, even if I have to pay more.
On that I totally agree. If vendors know that the Canbus causes an issue, they should change their advertising to state that you may need an aftermarket relay harness. Just like a certain vendor I ordered from way the heck back in early August for the new AEV snorkel that was supposed to be released in Sept and it's Nov now and still no snorkel. Anyways, I hope you decide to pull the plug on the TL headlights. They are very nice. Susquehanna makes a kick ass harness that allows you to still use the factory headlight switch and it's all plug n play.
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Old Nov 18, 2012 | 11:16 AM
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Hummmm.... This post was started on FEB 12 and as I write it is NOV 18 and there has not been any resoultion to the ficker issue by Truck-Lite. Now I understand that this is a perfectly working "Universal" 7" light, and the Canbus Flicker issue is not really their problem. HOWEVER... I would like to point out that there are well over 77,000 members on this forum, and EVERY new JK made has headlights that suck. If you couple that with the fact that there are not a lot of new Semi trucks/cars/SUV's/motorcycles being made with a 7" round headlight assembly; I would say that we for sure would be a large segment for their business.
I feel for a lot of people (me for sure) this is a hell of a mod since it is over $500+ to do and the last thing I would want is it to be half assed for that kind of money.
Hell, truck lite could even profit off the fix could they not? What is wrong with an additonal revenue stream?
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Old Nov 19, 2012 | 09:29 AM
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wow all this time an TL has not even updated the forum members let along the GP? Im a new JK owner and I think they just helped me choose between the TL and JW. Its that simple. the extra money buys a non flickering LED and better customer service. Plus it looks better. WTF TL? Thats unacceptable by any customer service definition out there. Too bad, cause I was leaning toward the TLs on account of cost savings but you get what you pay for dont you. Glad I joined this forum so I can get the nitty gritty on stuff like this. Nothing worse than spending your hard earned money on a product you cant get post sales support for, worse looks like TL doesnt care. You can deflect blame to retailers but they dont make the product and sell it as advertised from the manufacturer. If its "universal" it should work with all applications, if doesnt then its not universal meaning TL is advertising falsely imo. At least get some support to your vendors/distributors for a TL branded "universal" fix. Give your heads a shake TL. This day and age its all about service.

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Old Dec 10, 2012 | 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Cedo Nulli
Looking at upgrading to the Truck-Lite's soon. I've read the flicker is caused by the CANBUS because of the DRLs? I've got an '08 Rubicon Unlimited, I don't think I've even got DRLs...either that or I've somehow disabled them.

So, am I supposed to have DRLs? and two, if I don't have DRLs will I not have a flickering problem?

Other than the SMS harness, anyone seen/used these? http://w w w.tlg-auto.com/JEEP_JK_Wrangler_LED_Headlight_Harness_p/jeep001.htm
That's the first solution I have seen less than $100. I've tried other quick fixes, no results. No not everyone is supposed to have DRLs. And yes, you will still have the flicker.
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