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Old Mar 27, 2011 | 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by ChiroJK
Interesting...thanks guys. The torque curve looks more like a torque flat-line...
That's a good thing.
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Old Mar 27, 2011 | 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by JKlad
Chrysler added a variable intake to raise the power to 215HP on the V6 minivan motor, however the 3.8L variant used in the Wrangler doesn't use the variable intake system so produces only 202HP.
Can we install a variable intake ?

Will it work?

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Old Mar 27, 2011 | 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Tuto
Can we install a variable intake ?

Will it work?

I'm not sure exactly what design Chrysler used on the 3.8L V6, but this was a popular mod on Fords here where I am the back in the mid-90's.

In '94 Ford added a variable intake manifold with dual-length intake runners to the EFI system on their 4.0L I6 to greatly improve high-end performance without compromising low-end grunt, and it was a popular mod back then for the young Fast 'n Furious types to add this setup (usually sourced cheaply second-hand from a wrecked newer car) to pre-'94 motors to get some extra grunt (I believe the difference was about 30-40HP, so similar to the gains on the Chrysler V6 motor). On those motors it was a simple plug & play swap-out of the intake manifold and accompanying throttle body, intake runners & airbox though I'm pretty certain the PCM then had to be flashed to accomodate this.

Depending on how the Chrysler system is set-up is it could either be doable, or way too tricky to attempt; you'd need to get hold of a minivan with that motor and compare the intake set-up with the one on the Wrangler motor. I suspect that the valves that operate the system are deep in the lower intake manifold as is the case with some other V6s using the system which would mean a complete swap out of the entire manifold system, which is far more complex than the simpler one-piece I6 manifold; there's other simpler and more proven ways to get an extra 20-odd HP on a Wrangler motor than this (chipping, long-tube headers, free-flowing exhausts, etc).

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Old Mar 28, 2011 | 04:52 AM
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Originally Posted by JKlad

I'm not sure exactly what design Chrysler used on the 3.8L V6, but this was a popular mod on Fords here where I am the back in the mid-90's.

In '94 Ford added a variable intake manifold with dual-length intake runners to the EFI system on their 4.0L I6 to greatly improve high-end performance without compromising low-end grunt, and it was a popular mod back then for the young Fast 'n Furious types to add this setup (usually sourced cheaply second-hand from a wrecked newer car) to pre-'94 motors to get some extra grunt (I believe the difference was about 30-40HP, so similar to the gains on the Chrysler V6 motor). On those motors it was a simple plug & play swap-out of the intake manifold and accompanying throttle body, intake runners & airbox though I'm pretty certain the PCM then had to be flashed to accomodate this.

Depending on how the Chrysler system is set-up is it could either be doable, or way too tricky to attempt; you'd need to get hold of a minivan with that motor and compare the intake set-up with the one on the Wrangler motor. I suspect that the valves that operate the system are deep in the lower intake manifold as is the case with some other V6s using the system which would mean a complete swap out of the entire manifold system, which is far more complex than the simpler one-piece I6 manifold; there's other simpler and more proven ways to get an extra 20-odd HP on a Wrangler motor than this (chipping, long-tube headers, free-flowing exhausts, etc).
Haha no offense, but I think it's funny that JK owners are talking about swapping minivan parts for more power.

Funny, but in reality, this mod makes since. Anyone do this?
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Old Mar 29, 2011 | 06:30 AM
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Originally Posted by OldTex
Howdy,
the 3.8 is a better engine than most folks will admit. Tall tires and no gear changes will give a bad impression. !!!!
first time i've heard this...and very happy to hear it...
i love my V6...it's better than the 2.5 turbo diesels i've had in the past...
it propells my 'brick' quick enough for me thank you very much...
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Old Mar 29, 2011 | 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by ronjenx
The chart for the JK 3.8 has been posted on here. Not sure what threads, though.
Here you go. I keep it handy for all the old 4.0 guys to see, whenever they start talking smack about the 3.8....

Up against the old 4.0...


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Old Mar 29, 2011 | 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Uneasy Rider
Here you go. I keep it handy for all the old 4.0 guys to see, whenever they start talking smack about the 3.8....

Up against the old 4.0...
Thanks. Copied and saved.
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