Do the jks have these if so when did they start and what do they record? Is it the same as " obdm?" module ? can they record your speed in an accident or where you have been?

 

You can bet JKs have them. They vary from car to car, but they generally will record what the vehicle's speed, braking, acceleration, and likely other factors, at the time of an air bag deployment. Who can access them, and why is not yet settled law. That is to say the manufacturer will have the equipment to read the info, but whether they, the police, your insurance company, or others will be allowed to after an accident; is still a matter working its way through the courts. There was a case several years ago where an infant in a car seat of a Volkswagen was killed. It was clear that information stored in the system could answer important questions, but there was much dispute over whether the vehicle owner owned the information, or Volkswagen did. My recollection of that case was the owner wanted the data, and VW didn't want to read it, for fear it would be used in the owner's suit against them.

Similarly, autos generally can record things like maximum speed they've been operated at, whether they've been operated with waring lights displayed and so on.

Finally, I think everyone knows about the system storing "active" and "historic" trouble codes to aid in mechanical diagnosis.

The only good news about these is they're not GPS units. For that, someone just subpoenas your cell phone records.

We can't do nothin' fun no more.

Harris
Denver, CO

 

Just checked my 2011 owners manual and it states that I have the recorder in mine. If you have it they must tell you that it is installed. It is called an "event data recorder" or EDR. Now all I have to do is find it and disconnect it.

 

It amazes me how the government wants to have access to every aspect of our lives. A black box is just one more thing to invade our privacy, and very unnecessary IMO. I would be removing mine if it had one....

 

If you have a late model JK you probably have one. Check your owners manual and see if it says that you have one installed.

 

Lol with the way I drive, it can't do anything but help me if someone hit me, and it were accessed, they'd lose their shirt

 

Most if not all newer vehicles 05 and up have data recorders in them.YOU CANNOT REMOVE THEM AS THEY ARE PART OF THE COMPUTER SYSTEMS in the vehicles and short of removing the many computers installed in your vehicle you are sol.ùThe vehicle today has as many as four computers that (talk ) to each other and all are capable of submitting info to the main computer that has the black box integrated inside it;s operating systems,which constantly loops aprox 10 seconds od drive time continuously.

 

its not the government that wants the access its the INSURANCE COMPANIES - theyll use the information as a means to AVOID payout in the event of an accident.

the manufactures insurance companies want them in place so they can PROVE it was you that screwed up and not the vehicle. youre liability insurance wants it so they can prove you were "criminally" negligent so that they can prove that you violated the terms of your policy & avoid a hefty pay-out.

 

The ''black boxes'' are NOT required by the government or insurance companies. General Motors was being sued by every person in the country when one of their cars was involved in any serious accident. The level of lawsuits were killing the company. GM opted to install these in their vehicles, and the resultant drop in court cases and losses caused the rest of the industry to follow suit. I do believe that all makers except Toyota are accessible to law enforcement by laptop. No government or insurance conspiracy here, don't forget to put on your tinfoil hats after reading.....

 

Look at on star. The can unlock ur vehicle. Start and stop ur motor. And so on what all r they recording. Just saying.