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Old Nov 5, 2013 | 05:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Mark Doiron
Somehow we got from contractual agreements with agencies and suppliers to unions. Sheesh.
Yeah, you're right. I blame Obamacare. :-)

In all seriousness, I understand this. I work for a publicly traded company. I can't tell any of our customers about anything I am working on. The only way I can promise them anything is if they sign a contract and agree to pay for the work. They can give us all the suggestions they want, and sometimes we listen, but we can't give them even a hint that we are.

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Old Nov 5, 2013 | 06:06 AM
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Originally Posted by ShutterBug
Friggin' unions.
This is management issue and has nothing to do with unions. Unless that was sarcasm...
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Old Nov 5, 2013 | 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Tripletsi
This is management issue and has nothing to do with unions. Unless that was sarcasm...
It was sarcasm. BUT, it could have something to do with unions, if it was a union contract the Chrysler official was referring to. Who knows. I was just having a little fun :-)
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Old Nov 5, 2013 | 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by BigBlast
Due
to contractual obligations we have with both our agencies and suppliers,
Chrysler Group LLC is unable to accept outside suggestions from
individuals and customers.

They have contracts with market research firms that handle all of this for them - it's not internal. Chrysler doesn't do it themselves. After I bought my JK I was sent a survey from them. Trust me, even though they didn't get your specific complaint, they are aware of the issues and suggestions. This controls everything they do including deciding where to spend money on the vehicle, for example, do they spend more money on engine bay sound deadening or fancy hood latches and a windshield hinge you'll never fold down? The research tells them what to do and what things need to be fixed for the next model year. (yes, work in market research).

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Old Nov 5, 2013 | 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by daggo66
Remember the movie about the guy who invented wiper delay? I used to work for a cunsumer electronics company. People always wanted to submit new product ideas and they were always turned away. What if someone in R&D was working on that exact concept already? The person submitting the idea would sue, claiming his idea was stolen.
^^ very true.

Lots of companies have as standard practice a kind of firewall to keep submitted ideas away from the R&D folks. So when someone does sue (not if, when) they can say they never look at submitted ideas except for the mail clerk who returns the form letter as above.
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Old Nov 6, 2013 | 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by boon4376
They have contracts with market research firms that handle all of this for them - it's not internal. Chrysler doesn't do it themselves. After I bought my JK I was sent a survey from them. Trust me, even though they didn't get your specific complaint, they are aware of the issues and suggestions. This controls everything they do including deciding where to spend money on the vehicle, for example, do they spend more money on engine bay sound deadening or fancy hood latches and a windshield hinge you'll never fold down? The research tells them what to do and what things need to be fixed for the next model year. (yes, work in market research).
See that is what I would expect.. "thank you for your suggestion pertaining to our product, we are always looking t improve our customers experience. We will forward your suggestion to our research department/firm for consideration" And gods honest truth, I would have thought - awesome, hopefully I will see the changes soon. BTW, my suggestions had specifically to do with the Jeeps computer, so a flash would have been available to me later.. (yes, work in software/firmware)

Oh, and my second thought would have been - even more awesome, Jeep listens to their customers..
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