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Clutch slippage when cold?

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Old Oct 29, 2010 | 12:48 AM
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So I have noticed lately as the days are getting colder.. that If I let the Jeep.. sit for a day or two.. when I take off in first it has a slight.. chatter/slip to it.. but once warm it's gone.. I thought nothing of it really... But then tonight.. I took it out.. and all was fine.. but I noticed when shifting into 3rd and 4th only.. I would get a crazy chatter , almost like the clutch plate was not fully engaging, it was weird.. i had slight shutters on acceleration.. but then would leave.. once the jeep was fully warmed up.. Anyone else had this? I have been driving manual for 16 years.. so I know it's not me lol.. o yeah the jeep only just hit 5000kms
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Old Oct 29, 2010 | 06:17 AM
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Originally Posted by BOOST
So I have noticed lately as the days are getting colder.. that If I let the Jeep.. sit for a day or two.. when I take off in first it has a slight.. chatter/slip to it.. but once warm it's gone.. I thought nothing of it really... But then tonight.. I took it out.. and all was fine.. but I noticed when shifting into 3rd and 4th only.. I would get a crazy chatter , almost like the clutch plate was not fully engaging, it was weird.. i had slight shutters on acceleration.. but then would leave.. once the jeep was fully warmed up.. Anyone else had this? I have been driving manual for 16 years.. so I know it's not me lol.. o yeah the jeep only just hit 5000kms
Yeah, mine chatters for a few seconds when cold (35K miles). Apparantly many JKs do it but it doesn't necessarily indicate imminent clutch failure like I've found it has on some vehicles I've previously owned (chatter has often indicated engine oil leaks contaminating the clutch).

I've read that it has to do with the metal content of the clutch's friction material oxidizing in cold & damp weather (you guys are in Autumn, right) and that while not desireable it's not fatal. Mine's been doing it for 20K miles now & no sign of slippage.
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Old Oct 31, 2010 | 12:06 AM
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I think I had some of this today when shifting from first to second and second to third. Felt like an engine lugging from shifting to low in the RPM range but it was definitely a clutch thing because it happened all the way up to about 3300 RPM. The first to second deal cleared up in about five miles of city driving and the second to third took about 20 miles to go away. Haven't noticed this in the other manual vehicles I've driven on a regular basis, whatever, I've got 7000 miles on the odometer so I've got plenty of time to try and battle for some warranty work if it turns out to be an actual issue.
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Old Oct 31, 2010 | 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by zeppo
I think I had some of this today when shifting from first to second and second to third. Felt like an engine lugging from shifting to low in the RPM range but it was definitely a clutch thing because it happened all the way up to about 3300 RPM. The first to second deal cleared up in about five miles of city driving and the second to third took about 20 miles to go away. Haven't noticed this in the other manual vehicles I've driven on a regular basis, whatever, I've got 7000 miles on the odometer so I've got plenty of time to try and battle for some warranty work if it turns out to be an actual issue.
Be aware the clutch has a 12m/12k mile warranty. I've heard of some dealers honoring the clutch until the 3/36 mark, but my dealer won't, not even for a known problem.
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Old Oct 31, 2010 | 04:33 PM
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shrinkage factor
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Old Oct 31, 2010 | 06:58 PM
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Thanks for the heads up JC, I'll review my warranty paperwork and if it pops up again I'll at least start the paper trail on it.

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Old Oct 31, 2010 | 11:16 PM
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Originally Posted by zeppo
Thanks for the heads up JC, I'll review my warranty paperwork and if it pops up again I'll at least start the paper trail on it.

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There were a few things I had looked at a while back and the paper trail is exactly what needs to happen. The same service guy that won't work any clutch issues also made sure some things were logged in the system so they know it was an issue before the warranty was up. It was simple piddly shit, but he said it would fine since they noted them while under warranty.
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Old Oct 31, 2010 | 11:26 PM
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Thankfully my local dealer's been good to me thus far so if it should come down to repairs I don't think I'll have much of a problem convincing them to properly start a diagnosis and note it in my service history. Thanks again for sharing.
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Old Nov 1, 2010 | 03:41 AM
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I've noticed the same issue and my JK has 3000 miles on it... It's only when I first take off after it has set for a few days.
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Old Nov 4, 2010 | 03:21 AM
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Originally Posted by captjay
shrinkage factor
huh ??????
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