Yea i didnt even bother looking at it myslef, i was just so mad that they would let a customer drive a vehicle out of their shop without test driving after they had replaced drive axles and diffs. Or, if they did test drive, they should have noticed the wierd feeling in the front end, its very noticable, even at low speeds. If i drive it today and its not right, ill make them put it in the air and i willshow them how to diagnose the problem lol.

EDIT: so far i have had the ecu go completly crazy on me, had to reprogram it or something, the traction control comes on whenever it feels like it and never when its supposed to, both doors leak but the fixed the drivers side and the pass side got worse, throwout bearing went to crap waaaaay too soon, tranny creaks when the clutch pedal is pressed, the entire jeep creaks now since i got it back from the shop, thermostat got stuck closed. Plus the damage that i created with the alxes and diff. I know most of this is small problems but damn, it a brand new jeep. And i know jeeps are supposed to be kinda rugged and squeaky and wet and what not, but i tacked on 8k from my trade in to get this thing and its got nothing but small problems that make me hate it. At least with my TJ i didnt expect much cause it was old and i was making very small payments. With this jeep id like to be able to wheel and then clean it up and drive it around and have it be somewhat nice without so many anoying problems.

 

I hear what you're sayin. Sounds to me like a lousy dealer. Is it 5 star? If so, they go through great lengths to keep it. If I were you, I'd draft a letter documenting your grivences and the dealer's inadequate responses. Note the service managers name in your letter and let it be known that the general manager will get a copy if the items are not fully and completely addressed this time.

You have been patient enough and now it is time to move your issues to the next level.

Having said that, I put less faith in dealers working on warrenty issues than anything. I, like you, have a fairly new Jeep. I have never brought it in for their work and usually attempt most fixes at home. I have a stake it getting it fixed, they don't. Basic human nature. The letter serves to inject a stake.

GL

 

Yea i work at nissan so i know how warranty work goes, it doesnt pay as much as customer pay work does so it get half assed. I fix everyone elses cars all day so i dont wanna have to fix my own, i just like to do the mods lol.

 

Have your wheels/tires rebalanced...after going through everything on a WJ and lots of $ and time, I had the tires balanced and no more Death Wobble.

 

I did that a couple of weeks ago, too the wheels off to wash all the mud out and balanced and rotated them.

i dont think unbalanced tires can cause a death wobble. I have had them with about a pound of mud in each wheel, couldnt go about 40mph without the car shaking like crazy. Still, the death wobble is something totally different and uncontrollable, much worse than unbalanced tires.

 

I have been thinking about this problem for the last 24hrs quite a bit.

In solid front axle applications, the track bar is extremely important. Think of it this way, the frame of the Jeep is going down the road at 80mph. The front axle is being pushed by the frame through the 4 control arms. DW is when the axle shimmys left to right at speed. Put your two hands in front of you and make the peace sign (or victory sign if your a Nixon fan) and point them forward. Imagine pushing a rolling pin with your 4 fingers. This is how the front suspension works. If the rolling pin gets bumped to one side, what keep it from L-R movement is the trackbar. Any play in the track bar is gonna results in dw at one speed or another. To diagnose, lift and support the frame until the front wheels are off the ground. Push and pull both front tire left to right. If any play is observed, it is the likely culprit. Play could develop from other points like the ball joints or king pin. The speed that it occurred (80mph), indicates that the play will be small since it did not show up until alot of dynamic effects were working on the flaw. Do not rule out wheel balance, toe and castor alignment. All of these adjustments influence front end stability. The greater the castor, the slower the steering (with increased stability). The greater the toe, the more snowplow effect and greater stability as all steering components are preloaded (with a hit on efficiency). The better balanced each front tire is, the less likely that it'll vibrate the steering and hit a harmonic and throw the whole thing into a wild dance.

 

Misalignment, Unbalanced much much bigger then OEM wheels/tyres, skinny, weak OEM SS Stabilizer = Death Wobble....it's not rocket science.

 

well i picked up the jeep with the new steering stabilizer and it seemed to ride fine but i couldnt really get it up to speed because of traffic. Ill check the balance on the wheels and do an alignment tomorrow at work and see what it looks like. They said the old stabilizer was leaking.