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Old Apr 7, 2015 | 03:27 PM
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Default Edelbrock Super Charger Tuner Issue

First I will use this post to keep others up-to-date on the current situation. Should the issue become resolved, I will post a new review of the Edelbrock Super Charger. If not I will leave this warning for others to see. My goal is that if others are encountering a similar issue and fixed it, please let us know what you did. Or it prompts a discussion of ideas to correct to this.

Thursday night we placed the 2014 Jeep Wrangler JK Unlimited on the Dyno with Superchips tuning was removed. The jeep has 4.88 gearing, 35" tires, and the AFE Momentum intake. Dyno recorded 203HP and 185 Torque.

The SuperCharger arrived on Friday morning (4.3.2015). By 2pm the Supercharger was installed and ready to be tuned (Tuner was updated). We attempted to load the SCT Tune with the file Provided. Error 110C5 occured, which indicated that the SCT Tuner still could see the Superchips Tune applied. We spent Friday afternoon and Saturday monring attempting to remove the Superchips Tune. We could not get past error 110C5. Saturday afternoon we had the ECU Flashed by the dealer, and attempted to tune again. Now we received error 110AF. Research indicated that this was a common error on SCT Tuners and Fords due to a firmware issue. At this point we were stuck.

Monday we attempted contacting SCT when they opened, and after nearly 4 hours of trying to reach them, we finally got a hold of them. We explained the issue and they had us attempt to tune it again. After several attempts they had it escalated to their 'engineers'. The engineers responded indicated that we needed to flash the TCU as well, not just the ECU. We got the dealer back over and have now flashed every computer system in the Jeep. Error 110AF still comes up and the tuner will not apply the tune. We received no response the rest of the day from SCT after hourly phone call follow ups.

Tuesday we reached back out to SCT first thing in the morning. They asked us to send them the file of the stock tune. They reviewed the stock tune and said that the 'Boot Logger' still sees something in regards to the SuperChips tuner which will not allow it to apply the tune. They said they have what they call a 'Gate Keeper' that if it sees a tune it will not allow a new tune to apply. The recommended we use a 'different' tuner to apply a file specifically for the SCT Tuner (Impossible or hire someone to custom tune it) or have the ECU replaced by the dealer. Now my issue here is that a jeep with a SuperCharger installed is not going to get the ECU replaced for free by the dealer. Furthermore that's the response?

We have also engaged Edelbrock who indicated that SCT is who we need to talk to. They said they would also reach out, but currently the Jeep is a Brick. I have also reached out to the management team at SCT who have not contacted me back yet.

Currently I recommend anyone who has applied any sort of tune to your Jeep, wait until the issues are resolved before purchasing.

Any help or ideas anyone has, please post here so we can see and update everyone on the progress.

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Old Apr 7, 2015 | 03:44 PM
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Sorry to hear that you're having issues. I'm glad I saw this since I was thinking of purchasing one of their superchargers. I'll be following your post and hope they step up and get the bugs worked out for you.
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Old Apr 7, 2015 | 04:21 PM
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Given the endless issues that people have had with the Superchips tuner on 2012+ JKs, I'd look hard at that. Those things have fried many ECUs.
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Old Apr 7, 2015 | 04:26 PM
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Thank goodness I've resisted the urge to do any tuning..
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Old Apr 7, 2015 | 05:53 PM
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It's not just Superchips, I had a similar issue while trying to use both HP Tuners and SCT on the same PCM. Even though the factory program was installed with HP Tuners first, the SCT programmer gave a similar error and would not write to the vehicle. After a couple days of diagnosis I had to send SCT my PCM and programmer to be recovered, I'm sure they'll get you up and running shortly.

Because of the complexity of the newer PCM's and the way each aftermarket tuning company is accessing them, the best bet for anyone that has had a programmer of any kind on their JK is to return it to stock with that programmer, and then take it to the dealer and have the PCM updated to the latest version so that you know for sure it will work with the new programmer.
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Old Apr 7, 2015 | 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by yonson
It's not just Superchips, I had a similar issue while trying to use both HP Tuners and SCT on the same PCM. Even though the factory program was installed with HP Tuners first, the SCT programmer gave a similar error and would not write to the vehicle. After a couple days of diagnosis I had to send SCT my PCM and programmer to be recovered, I'm sure they'll get you up and running shortly.

Because of the complexity of the newer PCM's and the way each aftermarket tuning company is accessing them, the best bet for anyone that has had a programmer of any kind on their JK is to return it to stock with that programmer, and then take it to the dealer and have the PCM updated to the latest version so that you know for sure it will work with the new programmer.
That's what's crazy is the dealer has flashed it completely back to stock. Every system on the Jeep is back to stock. That SCT Tuner still thinks its not. We even have a new ECU coming in 3 days just in case.
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Old Apr 7, 2015 | 07:16 PM
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I wonder if there is something wrong with the SCT programmer itself, maybe something happened to it the first time it tried programming.

Possibly when the the PCM was reprogrammed by the dealer there was a newer release like AH installed into it than what was put back in it by the superchips programmer say AC and the program that you have in your programmer is for AC and not AH?
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Old Apr 8, 2015 | 12:34 AM
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Default How is this Edelbrock's fault?

Doesn't the Edelbrock's install start with an unadulterated ECM? The Supercross programmer is what has failed to return the programing to stock. I think the thread title should be changed to not libel Edelbrock.
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Old Apr 8, 2015 | 05:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Dbird29
Doesn't the Edelbrock's install start with an unadulterated ECM? The Supercross programmer is what has failed to return the programing to stock. I think the thread title should be changed to not libel Edelbrock.
He said the dealer has flashed the ECM back to stock. That should wipe out any residuals left by Superchips tune.
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Old Apr 8, 2015 | 07:28 AM
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Originally Posted by pxb006
He said the dealer has flashed the ECM back to stock. That should wipe out any residuals left by Superchips tune.
From the original post it looks like they did that after they already tried programming it.
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