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First time in snow.. wheel hop?

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Old Feb 11, 2013 | 05:30 PM
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I thought the stock Rubicon tires were terrible in snow? The mud terrain ones? Were you wheeling with the ESB on?

I went with the BFG all terrain, upgraded from the X SR-As and have never had any problems. I'm in Utah as well and as I watched others in cars and trucks try and fail to drive on the snow over the past few months, my Jeep felt like it was driving on velcro. Not one problem.



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Old Feb 11, 2013 | 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by SnowBall
let me ask this, who else has a '12 or '13 rubicon 6 speed? lots of you guys have older jeeps, maybe they changed something that makes the newer ones a victim to this problem.
Iv got a 12 JKUR 6 speed. And no complaints here...

Traction control can really piss you off tho. Have you completely disabled it or just pressed it once? As doing that will only partially disable
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Old Feb 11, 2013 | 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by AdvJeep
I have an 11' and no wheel hop! Have you tried doing the steering wheel dance to turn off the traction control? Mines off all winter, gives me more control!
enlighten me on this, cuz i hit the button and it still robs my power
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Old Feb 11, 2013 | 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by SnowBall

enlighten me on this, cuz i hit the button and it still robs my power
Just hitting the button is partial off here is how to completely disable it.(not partially). its in the manual. this completely turns it off ... do it again to turn it back on you have to do it exactly as it says for it to work.. it will flash esp off if you do it correctly and display the wavy lines all the time..

1. Place into 4H
2. turn jeep off then on (actually start the jeep)
3. center wheel
4. turn clockwise so JEEP is upside down at 180 degrees
5. press and hold esp for 7 seconds (at 5 secs you will hear one chime) now depress the esp button keeping the wheel in the same position hold 7 seconds. you will hear another chime.
6. recenter wheel
7. turn counter clockwise till JEEP is upside down.
8. Press and hold ESP for 7 seconds (at 5 secs you will hear one chime) now depress the esp button keeping the wheel in the same position hold 7 seconds. you will hear another chime.
9. Recenter wheel
10. Press and hold ESP for 7 seconds. then depress until you hear the chime.
11. Turn off Jeep
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Old Feb 11, 2013 | 07:01 PM
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Here is a handy chart for what's on and off.

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Old Feb 11, 2013 | 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by xerofall
I thought the stock Rubicon tires were terrible in snow? The mud terrain ones? Were you wheeling with the ESB on?

I went with the BFG all terrain, upgraded from the X SR-As and have never had any problems. I'm in Utah as well and as I watched others in cars and trucks try and fail to drive on the snow over the past few months, my Jeep felt like it was driving on velcro. Not one problem.



Utah as well? you should say Tooele as well, hey how are ya

Originally Posted by AdvJeep
Just hitting the button is partial off here is how to completely disable it.(not partially). its in the manual. this completely turns it off ... do it again to turn it back on you have to do it exactly as it says for it to work.. it will flash esp off if you do it correctly and display the wavy lines all the time..

1. Place into 4H
2. turn jeep off then on (actually start the jeep)
3. center wheel
4. turn clockwise so JEEP is upside down at 180 degrees
5. press and hold esp for 7 seconds (at 5 secs you will hear one chime) now depress the esp button keeping the wheel in the same position hold 7 seconds. you will hear another chime.
6. recenter wheel
7. turn counter clockwise till JEEP is upside down.
8. Press and hold ESP for 7 seconds (at 5 secs you will hear one chime) now depress the esp button keeping the wheel in the same position hold 7 seconds. you will hear another chime.
9. Recenter wheel
10. Press and hold ESP for 7 seconds. then depress until you hear the chime.
11. Turn off Jeep
thats pretty ridiculous... but its worth a try

Originally Posted by ronjenx
Here is a handy chart for what's on and off.

thats got a light bulb going.. i dont think it hops in low range ( with all the control systems off ) so next time im out im going to turn everything off i can and see what happens. i might not ditch the jeep quite yet.
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Old Feb 11, 2013 | 08:45 PM
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sounds like you got a wild jeep... need to tame it.. go play in the fields..
also drive it some in 2WD... see what it can do..
hope you figure it out.
interesting thread.
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Old Feb 11, 2013 | 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by JK-jeepit


sounds like you got a wild jeep... need to tame it.. go play in the fields..
also drive it some in 2WD... see what it can do..
hope you figure it out.
interesting thread.
haha thats a great way to put it, i dont want to give up on it yet, im still experimenting
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Old Feb 12, 2013 | 03:00 AM
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Originally Posted by ronjenx
Oh, you meant the 37 psi may have been a typo.

It says 37 on the data sticker for the stock tires, so that's what I run. Mt tire wear is very even at that pressure.
I have 60,000 miles on them with about 8/32" remaining.
Originally Posted by GJeep
That's strange, because I got mine with "sticker pressure", chalk tested, and went down to 30 psi to get them sit flat.

Well chalk tested or not, its hard to say its improper tire pressure when he has 60k miles on them and they are wearing good. I too run 35-37 PSI in my stock rubi tires/wheels on the road, which seams to be about the perfect pressure for me. I only have 5000k miles on the Jeep, though, but they are not cupping or wearing funny at all yet.


To the original poster, I too have experienced wheel hop in my Jeep ('12 unlimited rubi). I have only driven in the deep snow once so far with this Jeep, but it did hop from time to time. I will be heading out to an off road park this weekend and will report back if wheel hop was an issue or not.

I installed an ESP kill switch, so I can turn it off/on quickly and easily. I will try to see if it makes any difference with wheel hop if the system is on or off.
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Old Feb 12, 2013 | 04:48 AM
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I was on top of 18" or so of old snow packed hard by snowmobiles, and dropped through. It was too deep and hard to climb out of, so I used 4-low and the lockers to claw a path back out of it. I had to take it easy because as the tires chewed at the "snow wall" she would want to hop pretty good. There was no getting out of my tracks to turn around unless I had used the winch.

So I think if you are in snow hard enough and high enough that your mudders have to chew through as they try and fail to climb over, yes you can get it hopping especially in 4-lo locked. It does not help if it is deep enough that you are pushing your frame/axles through it too.

On the other hand, my Ranger with a total of 7" of body/suspension lift has done about the same thing if the tires/axles got into the same dense hard snow.

It sounds like the OP probably knows all this, but I don't know what else would cause it.
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