Originally Posted by Collyn

Sorry about my post last night guys. I just watched my Texas rangers get screwed by a bad call that cost them the game. Then I posted. I should not post after I get pissed off watching baseball. Haha. I don't have personal proof that armor all is "bad"'for an interior. I only know this because a few years ago I was a district mgr for Cartoys and we started professional detailing. I went to "LookRight" in California for a training seminar and the chemists there kinda touched base on why to NOT use oil based chemicals on plastic parts. They did mention "armor all" repetitively. They may have said "armor all" as a "noun" and not necessarily as a "pronoun". Kinda like I say "coke" for just about any soft drink. But they did say armor all. The emphasis was on NOT using them and only using allergen free water based chemicals inside the car. Maybe it was to limit the liability for the chain of stores since the chemicals can react to some cars, and possibly NOT react to others? Don't know. I was told NEVER to use it on interiors, and I was told to train my installers to NEVER USE IT EITHER. There was a very good reason for it. Didn't pay attention enough to get the exact specifics as to why. It did have something to do with the oils and alcohol in the product. It penetrates and dries out the plastic. Don't know now. Don't care how. Just was told by very knowledgable folks on the matter not to use it. Again. Sorry if I have offending anyone by "preaching" about something I have never taken the time to fully research. It's like smoking. Dr.s say it's bad for you. Is it? Probably. Have I taken the time to try it for years to test my luck? Nope. I just assume that it is bad for me. That said, car makers have cigarette lighters in them. It must be ok. Driving at high speeds increases your chance of serious injury in a crash? Maybe. But car makers build cars that can surpass 200mph. There is always something bad for you, or your car, that is advertised as good. It's a free world. Free enterprise. . It's up to the consumer to verify what is REALLY good and up to the consumer to choose if the immediate benefit (glossy dash.....nicotine rush) is worth the reported risks. Not to me.

Originally Posted by Jeepstin12

Good recovery, kudos to the apology, but you get marked -2 points for indulging in a sport on two offenses. One being a sport that doesn't require two balls to play, the second being a "sport" that you can play while wearing jewelry. Relax, it's the only life you get a chance at.

Originally Posted by Black2013JK

I decided to detail the JK today. I have never really had a nice rig and subsequently have never really fussed over the exterior of the vehicles I have owned. I have never clay barred anything and thought today might be as good of time as ever to give it a whirl. I don't know what I expected but it didn't seem like much happened. I own a 2013 and I park in a garage at home as well as at work. I guess I was thinking (wrongly) that maybe it would pull or soften some of my pin stripping out but it obviously didn't. I did have some white specs of overspray on the back I was able to get off but hell, that was even a lot of work. I used this Meguiars clay bar kit. Perhaps I used the wrong stuff?

I also waxed the Jeep. I used the Turtle Ice Liquid Wax which seemed to work fine. I did two coats on the hood but just one everywhere else. I used this stuff cause the internet said it worked well with plastics. With as much as we have on our JKs I didn't want to worry about getting wax in places it ought not be. In the future though I may get the stuff in the spray bottle.

I did wonder though if the Turtle stuff for black vehicles would be okay on my JK plastics too but didn't want to risk it.

I still have some hard water spots here and that which sucks but I'm pretty happy with how it went. It took me a long time but the wife is happy because I also bought the headlight kit to hopefully brighten up the lenses on her camry. That worked out way good so everyone won today.