Knocking engine, Dealer failed to put oil in during oil change. How can I prove this.
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Knocking engine, Dealer failed to put oil in during oil change. How can I prove this.
I'm probably going to be SOL but a while back I took my Jeep in to a local dealer for routine maintenance. I never got any message, beep or light except "Change Oil". I called the dealer and they said the tech must have forgotten to reset it and told me how to do this.
I drove the Jeep without issue for about 3000 Miles and noticed a ticking noise. I thought it was my exhaust but checked my oil and it was bone dry. (Jeep had 50,000 Miles and never used or burned oil so I never thought to check) Anyways, I immediately added the correct oil and then drove it to my work and had our own service tech perform an oil change and rotation etc. Upon inspection the tech seen metal in the pan. He said the life of the motor was greatly diminished. I asked how I can prove the dealership failed to put oil in the car and he said "You Cant" and at the least there is records that you maintained the Jeep.
After the service the ticking noise went away so I didn't think anything of the issue. The Jeep ran fine, had decent power and still no warning lights. So now I am due for another oil change and I'm at 4000 Miles. The Jeep held its oil fine with no burning or leaks. However... Yesterday the Jeep's engine began knocking loudly on the highway and died. I pulled over and had it towed home.
I checked the oil again this morning and it's still full. So now I worry because 1. I performed my own oil change and 2. I didn't call the dealership once I noticed the Jeep was without oil. It would have been nice to have had a engine light, oil light SOMETHING! But even with the loud knock and dying motor, I have no warning lights.
Did I just kill all chances of an honored warranty? Technically, with all maintenance technically performed. My warranty should be valid.
Anyone have any input? Hopefully encouraging news.
Thanks
I drove the Jeep without issue for about 3000 Miles and noticed a ticking noise. I thought it was my exhaust but checked my oil and it was bone dry. (Jeep had 50,000 Miles and never used or burned oil so I never thought to check) Anyways, I immediately added the correct oil and then drove it to my work and had our own service tech perform an oil change and rotation etc. Upon inspection the tech seen metal in the pan. He said the life of the motor was greatly diminished. I asked how I can prove the dealership failed to put oil in the car and he said "You Cant" and at the least there is records that you maintained the Jeep.
After the service the ticking noise went away so I didn't think anything of the issue. The Jeep ran fine, had decent power and still no warning lights. So now I am due for another oil change and I'm at 4000 Miles. The Jeep held its oil fine with no burning or leaks. However... Yesterday the Jeep's engine began knocking loudly on the highway and died. I pulled over and had it towed home.
I checked the oil again this morning and it's still full. So now I worry because 1. I performed my own oil change and 2. I didn't call the dealership once I noticed the Jeep was without oil. It would have been nice to have had a engine light, oil light SOMETHING! But even with the loud knock and dying motor, I have no warning lights.
Did I just kill all chances of an honored warranty? Technically, with all maintenance technically performed. My warranty should be valid.
Anyone have any input? Hopefully encouraging news.
Thanks
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I'm probably going to be SOL but a while back I took my Jeep in to a local dealer for routine maintenance. I never got any message, beep or light except "Change Oil". I called the dealer and they said the tech must have forgotten to reset it and told me how to do this.
I drove the Jeep without issue for about 3000 Miles and noticed a ticking noise. I thought it was my exhaust but checked my oil and it was bone dry. (Jeep had 50,000 Miles and never used or burned oil so I never thought to check) Anyways, I immediately added the correct oil and then drove it to my work and had our own service tech perform an oil change and rotation etc. Upon inspection the tech seen metal in the pan. He said the life of the motor was greatly diminished. I asked how I can prove the dealership failed to put oil in the car and he said "You Cant" and at the least there is records that you maintained the Jeep.
After the service the ticking noise went away so I didn't think anything of the issue. The Jeep ran fine, had decent power and still no warning lights. So now I am due for another oil change and I'm at 4000 Miles. The Jeep held its oil fine with no burning or leaks. However... Yesterday the Jeep's engine began knocking loudly on the highway and died. I pulled over and had it towed home.
I checked the oil again this morning and it's still full. So now I worry because 1. I performed my own oil change and 2. I didn't call the dealership once I noticed the Jeep was without oil. It would have been nice to have had a engine light, oil light SOMETHING! But even with the loud knock and dying motor, I have no warning lights.
Did I just kill all chances of an honored warranty? Technically, with all maintenance technically performed. My warranty should be valid.
Anyone have any input? Hopefully encouraging news.
Thanks
I drove the Jeep without issue for about 3000 Miles and noticed a ticking noise. I thought it was my exhaust but checked my oil and it was bone dry. (Jeep had 50,000 Miles and never used or burned oil so I never thought to check) Anyways, I immediately added the correct oil and then drove it to my work and had our own service tech perform an oil change and rotation etc. Upon inspection the tech seen metal in the pan. He said the life of the motor was greatly diminished. I asked how I can prove the dealership failed to put oil in the car and he said "You Cant" and at the least there is records that you maintained the Jeep.
After the service the ticking noise went away so I didn't think anything of the issue. The Jeep ran fine, had decent power and still no warning lights. So now I am due for another oil change and I'm at 4000 Miles. The Jeep held its oil fine with no burning or leaks. However... Yesterday the Jeep's engine began knocking loudly on the highway and died. I pulled over and had it towed home.
I checked the oil again this morning and it's still full. So now I worry because 1. I performed my own oil change and 2. I didn't call the dealership once I noticed the Jeep was without oil. It would have been nice to have had a engine light, oil light SOMETHING! But even with the loud knock and dying motor, I have no warning lights.
Did I just kill all chances of an honored warranty? Technically, with all maintenance technically performed. My warranty should be valid.
Anyone have any input? Hopefully encouraging news.
Thanks
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Is the jeep still under warranty? If it is still under warranty then I would take it to Jeep have them figure out what is wrong with it and they will maybe end up putting a new engine in it. No offense but as soon as you realized there was no oil in it you should have let it sit. Had them tow it and that way they would have known they fucked up. If you ran for 3k miles with no oil and then noticed it and then just did a routine oil change knowing there were shards of metal in the oil pan. I mean you kind of hid their fuck up and they could just deny. Nobody wants to admit they just cost corporate 5k in damages or more.
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How many quarts did you have to add? I doubt you drove it for 3,000 miles with out any oil. It would have seized quickly with out oil. Plus why would you drive for 3,000 miles with out ever checking the oil?
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Definitly my bad on not checking but one would think I would have some type of warning light?
I would have called the dealership once the tech seen metal in the pan but the ticking noise was gone and from past Warranty fights with other cars, I know Chrysler Service guys cannot do much for repairs without failure. I guess I will play it by ear. My Jeep in in the shop and I will talk with them on Monday since the appointment for service isn't until later this coming week.
I was able to find out online that my warranty shouldn't be voided by having another shop perform my oil change. I'm going to just expect the worse and hope for the best. If anything, I can always to the Hemi upgrade.
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oh man, this sounds like a really shitty scenario. Hopefully you're able to come out on top. I'm religious about doing my own simple oil changes and regularly checking the level
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So, when you say the oil was "bone dry", you mean it didn't show on the dipstick? Is that what you mean? If they didn't put any oil at all in the engine I don't see how you could have driven one mile without the engine seizing.
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If the dealer forgot to put oil in your Jeep you would have known that long before you got home with your Jeep. It would have made a lot of noise and red lights would have shown on your dash and more than likely would have died before you got to far. If you drove it 3000 miles without once checking the oil and then when the engine knocks and you find your low on oil well that's you bad and not the dealers fault. I can't believe there are people that never pull a dip stick to check oil. There are so many things that can go wrong with cars or anything mechanical that you really need to keep an eye on things even if it's brand new.