Manual VS Automatic
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JK Newbie
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From: Hohenburg, Germany
I guess I will hang my head in shame then. No, I know that there will always be a debate but it's nice to hear the pros of an automatic from so many people. Thanks for all the opinions and everything else I've read on the forum that's geting me cranked up for my first Jeep.
JK Enthusiast
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From: Plymouth, MA
I guess I will hang my head in shame then. No, I know that there will always be a debate but it's nice to hear the pros of an automatic from so many people. Thanks for all the opinions and everything else I've read on the forum that's geting me cranked up for my first Jeep.
Nothing wrong with the auto. I have one now and I've had my share of sticks too. It's not like I can't drive a stick if I want/need to. To each his (her) own. 
Yeah, this would be an interesting poll, even if just to see the percentages!
Last edited by jeeper; Sep 18, 2007 at 10:52 AM.
JK Super Freak
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Your right about my math... forgot about the torque converter... 
That being said, I disagree about hitting the rocks harder. Maybe its just me, but I can crawl up some hard moderate climbs without touching my clutch or smacking any rocks. As long as I can keep my tires rotating just below half a MPH, I don't need know stinking clutch or worry about stalling. 
That being said, I disagree about hitting the rocks harder. Maybe its just me, but I can crawl up some hard moderate climbs without touching my clutch or smacking any rocks. As long as I can keep my tires rotating just below half a MPH, I don't need know stinking clutch or worry about stalling.
JK Freak
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From: Florida Hill Country (Tallahassee)
Your right about my math... forgot about the torque converter... That being said, I disagree about hitting the rocks harder. Maybe its just me, but I can crawl up some hard moderate climbs without touching my clutch or smacking any rocks. As long as I can keep my tires rotating just below half a MPH, I don't need know stinking clutch or worry about stalling.
That being said, I disagree about hitting the rocks harder. Maybe its just me, but I can crawl up some hard moderate climbs without touching my clutch or smacking any rocks. As long as I can keep my tires rotating just below half a MPH, I don't need know stinking clutch or worry about stalling. 
JK Newbie
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auto 2x more? help me understand
according to allpar.com the auto has a 1st gear ratio of 2.84 and the manual has a 1st gear ratio of 4.46
so if you go here and punch in those numbers http://www.4x4extremesports.com/calculators.php
on the Find Overall Crawl Ratio calculator
I get
Transmission Ratio: 4.46
Transfer Case Ratio: 4.0 Axle Ratio: 4.1 Overall Ratio: 73.14399999999999
for the manual and
Transmission Ratio: 2.84
Transfer Case Ratio: 4.0 Axle Ratio: 4.1 Overall Ratio: 46.57599999999999
for the auto? which for the manual sounds right ie. 73 to 1
where does the 2x come in to make the auto higher? How does the 2.84 turn into 5.68? which would give it 93.15199999999999 or 93 to 1
so if you go here and punch in those numbers http://www.4x4extremesports.com/calculators.php
on the Find Overall Crawl Ratio calculator
I get
Transmission Ratio: 4.46
Transfer Case Ratio: 4.0 Axle Ratio: 4.1 Overall Ratio: 73.14399999999999
for the manual and
Transmission Ratio: 2.84
Transfer Case Ratio: 4.0 Axle Ratio: 4.1 Overall Ratio: 46.57599999999999
for the auto? which for the manual sounds right ie. 73 to 1
where does the 2x come in to make the auto higher? How does the 2.84 turn into 5.68? which would give it 93.15199999999999 or 93 to 1
JK Enthusiast
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From: Naperville, IL
Here in Europe, especially Italy we are not really into auto.
A lot of people think that auto is for old people or for who has phisical problems.
They think that a sport car or off road has to have stick (think Ferrari, Lamborghini, Maserati etc...).
lately they are converted to auto cause of the huge traffic we have in aur city (even in the small one) and they found out that auto is great!
Personally it is 22 years that I willing to have auto, and after a stick Land Cruiser finalli I got my auto Jeep!
Great, absolutely great!
Franco-Italy
A lot of people think that auto is for old people or for who has phisical problems.
They think that a sport car or off road has to have stick (think Ferrari, Lamborghini, Maserati etc...).
lately they are converted to auto cause of the huge traffic we have in aur city (even in the small one) and they found out that auto is great!
Personally it is 22 years that I willing to have auto, and after a stick Land Cruiser finalli I got my auto Jeep!
Great, absolutely great!
Franco-Italy
I used to live Noth of Napoli. In the summer Italy has the wost traffic I have ever seen. Even so I had a great time there. I hope to return someday with my family.
