Strange scraping noise coming from rear brake...help!
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Strange scraping noise coming from rear brake...help!
Hey all, hope someone can help. My story is a bit convoluted, so please bear with me.
Some background - I've had a persistent squeak in my rear driver's side brake for almost 2 years now, only when braking at low speed and only present during certain types of weather (raining, humid). About 1.5 years ago I took it to my dealership who claimed I got mud in the brake assembly, charged me $270 to disassemble and clean it. A week later, the squeak came back. I suspect that all they did was spray some WD-40 on it, which is consequently what I did any time I couldn't stand the sound anymore. This past summer I replaced the rear brake pads which were completely worn. After I replaced them, the squeak went away completely for about a month, but then it came back.
So about two weeks ago I got a new set of tires which were installed at a local shop. Then last week I noticed a very bad scraping sound every time I drove over bumps and when braking. I look underneath, and somehow the bottom bolt on the passenger rear brake assembly was completely missing, leaving the assembly to swing freely! I have no idea how this could've happened, but luckily I had an extra bolt from another project and was able to secure the brake. Scraping sound gone.
Later that same day, I notice that the original squeaking on the driver's side brake seems louder, and now a new scraping sound has appeared. Anytime I turn left sharply, a loud metallic scrapping sound emanates from that same driver's side rear brake. Left turn, left brake - doesn't make sense to me. I've read that scraping can often indicate worn wheel bearings, but wouldn't the sound occur under increased load in that case? I'm gonna take advantage of today's warm weather to pull the wheel off and inspect it, but I was hoping to get some pointers so I can hit the parts store beforehand if I have to.
Other notes - my rear axle has always been off center, to the right by about 1.5". Well I assume it's always been the case because I didn't notice it until I'd had my Jeep for over a year, and it hasn't changed since. Also, the Jeep seems to be tilting very slightly to the right (right side lower than left). Any advice would be greatly appreciated Thanks!
Some background - I've had a persistent squeak in my rear driver's side brake for almost 2 years now, only when braking at low speed and only present during certain types of weather (raining, humid). About 1.5 years ago I took it to my dealership who claimed I got mud in the brake assembly, charged me $270 to disassemble and clean it. A week later, the squeak came back. I suspect that all they did was spray some WD-40 on it, which is consequently what I did any time I couldn't stand the sound anymore. This past summer I replaced the rear brake pads which were completely worn. After I replaced them, the squeak went away completely for about a month, but then it came back.
So about two weeks ago I got a new set of tires which were installed at a local shop. Then last week I noticed a very bad scraping sound every time I drove over bumps and when braking. I look underneath, and somehow the bottom bolt on the passenger rear brake assembly was completely missing, leaving the assembly to swing freely! I have no idea how this could've happened, but luckily I had an extra bolt from another project and was able to secure the brake. Scraping sound gone.
Later that same day, I notice that the original squeaking on the driver's side brake seems louder, and now a new scraping sound has appeared. Anytime I turn left sharply, a loud metallic scrapping sound emanates from that same driver's side rear brake. Left turn, left brake - doesn't make sense to me. I've read that scraping can often indicate worn wheel bearings, but wouldn't the sound occur under increased load in that case? I'm gonna take advantage of today's warm weather to pull the wheel off and inspect it, but I was hoping to get some pointers so I can hit the parts store beforehand if I have to.
Other notes - my rear axle has always been off center, to the right by about 1.5". Well I assume it's always been the case because I didn't notice it until I'd had my Jeep for over a year, and it hasn't changed since. Also, the Jeep seems to be tilting very slightly to the right (right side lower than left). Any advice would be greatly appreciated Thanks!
Last edited by Henry; 01-05-2012 at 08:35 AM.
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I had a similar issue. My emergency brake was rubbing inside the housing very lightly. Annoying sound of grinding and would go away at certain times. A smallest tilt is common on the stock jk. I would also be concerned with the axle centering if it is off by 1.5" that's significant. Either the wrong track bar or something was welded wrong. I can't stand mine off and its 3/8". I would shoot to center the axle then search for the sound again. And rear brakes on jks tend to wear faster than the fronts due to the esp control. Good luck.
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I had a similar issue. My emergency brake was rubbing inside the housing very lightly. Annoying sound of grinding and would go away at certain times. A smallest tilt is common on the stock jk. I would also be concerned with the axle centering if it is off by 1.5" that's significant. Either the wrong track bar or something was welded wrong. I can't stand mine off and its 3/8". I would shoot to center the axle then search for the sound again. And rear brakes on jks tend to wear faster than the fronts due to the esp control. Good luck.
How do I go about centering the axle? From what I've read I need to put in an adjustable trackbar. Is this the only way? Sucks if there's no way to adjust it with stock components
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things to look for if it is off
1 Any lift on it ever?
2 accident on record?
3 any odd brackets around the track bar mounts - ie aftermarket frame bracket or axle bracket
if answers are no to the above then two options leave it as is or consider spending money for an adjustable rear bar. Out to the right would be easy to fix that way.
any pics would help diagnose this issue..
A thought about the grinding - lift the side of the axle you hear the grinding. jeep in neutral and opposite wheel on ground turn the wheel by hand and see if it spins free or hearing the grinding. possible for a bearing to make that noise as well. make sure to chock the opposite wheel of course.