Tires to replace stockers fo wife's daily driver.
I respect your buddy's opinion but I have to disagree regarding the Revo 2's. My Revo 2's do just fine in the mud but any AT tire is going to be average at best in the mud. As far as snow goes, my Revo 2's excel in the snow and ice. Never had a better street/snow/ice tire on any of my vehicles.
I also don't think that comparing tread depth is a factor unless you consider the compound used in making the tires. Just my $.02.
I also don't think that comparing tread depth is a factor unless you consider the compound used in making the tires. Just my $.02.
The SR-As have a lower rolling resistance than the BFG M/Ts, largely due to the tread squirm of the big lugs. I was getting 2 mpg better with the SR-As than I'm getting with my aggressive Coopers. I read a test performed by Tire Rack, where they found that regardless of on what vehicle they mounted SR-As, they always got better fuel mileage.
I found the SR-As to be acceptable in snow. They didn't do well in rain, and were beyond useless in mud. I tolerated them only because they offered good tread wear and better fuel economy. However, I did replace them after 15,000 miles with a hybrid AT that's as good or better than many Mud Terrains in mud, and vastly better than the SR-As on any surface (in terms of traction). The only down side issues were harsh ride (load range D), reduced economy and some tread hum.
As to the Revo2s... Good street tire, useless in mud, and based upon on one guy I know who had them on his Xterra, unimpressive in snow. After a rough winter and some unhappiness with snow performance, he has installed a set of Duratracs (which are winter rated).
One more thing... Revo2s in 265/70-17 have just 12/32" of tread depth, compared to 18/32" on the Duratracs.
I found the SR-As to be acceptable in snow. They didn't do well in rain, and were beyond useless in mud. I tolerated them only because they offered good tread wear and better fuel economy. However, I did replace them after 15,000 miles with a hybrid AT that's as good or better than many Mud Terrains in mud, and vastly better than the SR-As on any surface (in terms of traction). The only down side issues were harsh ride (load range D), reduced economy and some tread hum.
As to the Revo2s... Good street tire, useless in mud, and based upon on one guy I know who had them on his Xterra, unimpressive in snow. After a rough winter and some unhappiness with snow performance, he has installed a set of Duratracs (which are winter rated).
One more thing... Revo2s in 265/70-17 have just 12/32" of tread depth, compared to 18/32" on the Duratracs.
I normally recommend Nitto Terra Grapplers on a DD that doesn't see a ton of trail time.
They're killer in the rain and probably the best snow tire I've ever ran.
I also have to give a vote to the Revo 2s. My buddy has a set on his Chevy 1500. We were playing in the snow last winter and they were very impressive.
They perform much better than their looks suggest.
They're killer in the rain and probably the best snow tire I've ever ran.
I also have to give a vote to the Revo 2s. My buddy has a set on his Chevy 1500. We were playing in the snow last winter and they were very impressive.
They perform much better than their looks suggest.
I respect your buddy's opinion but I have to disagree regarding the Revo 2's. My Revo 2's do just fine in the mud but any AT tire is going to be average at best in the mud. As far as snow goes, my Revo 2's excel in the snow and ice. Never had a better street/snow/ice tire on any of my vehicles.
I also don't think that comparing tread depth is a factor unless you consider the compound used in making the tires. Just my $.02.
I also don't think that comparing tread depth is a factor unless you consider the compound used in making the tires. Just my $.02.
Shallow tread depth reduces ability to self-clean because there is less mass to spin out. Tight, shallow treads do not self-clean well.
When I talk about mud, I don’t mean a slightly muddy dirt road. I mean shin deep goo. You drive a JK on Revo2s into deep mud, and that’s where it will stay until winched out.
Bridgestone calls the Revo2 an AT, but it’s no more than an All Season radial for light trucks. There’s nothing wrong with that, if you seldom venture off road it’s a good choice. Nonetheless, in my opinion, it is not an All Terrain tire in any realistic sense of the word.
Here's the M/S rated Revo2:

The following are genuine All Terrain tires. All excel in snow and offer high levels of traction on any terrain, including mud. All have self-cleaning outer lugs. All are well siped for packed snow and ice.
Here's the Severe Winter Rated Duratrac (pinned for studs):

Here's the Severe Winter Service rated Dunlop Maxx Traction (my winter tire):

Here's the Kelly Safari TSR (pinned for studs):

Here's the Cooper Discovery S/T Sure Traction, my three season tire (pinned for studs):

It comes down to what you expect and require. There's nothing wrong with choosing the Revo2, as long as you recognize its limitations.
Last edited by Widewing; Aug 9, 2010 at 06:00 PM.
I agree 100%. The Bridgestone Dueler AT Revo 2 is not a mud terrain tire. It will not fair well in deep mud.
I was making a recommendation based on the OP's statement, "Even though it will be her daily driver I am leaning towards something fairly aggressive mainly for looks."
The Dueler AT Revo 2 looks quite aggressive. I can take some photos if you'd like. The Tire Rack photo doesn't do them justice.
OP, good luck in your search for a good tire. There are so many options today I think no matter what you choose you will be happy.
I was making a recommendation based on the OP's statement, "Even though it will be her daily driver I am leaning towards something fairly aggressive mainly for looks."
The Dueler AT Revo 2 looks quite aggressive. I can take some photos if you'd like. The Tire Rack photo doesn't do them justice.
OP, good luck in your search for a good tire. There are so many options today I think no matter what you choose you will be happy.
Compound has nothing to do with my point. I didn’t point out the difference in tread depth to insinuate superior wear rate. Tread depth on an off road tire is related to its ability to bite on loose surfaces, conform to and bite on hard surfaces and self-clean of mud and snow.
Shallow tread depth reduces ability to self-clean because there is less mass to spin out. Tight, shallow treads do not self-clean well.
When I talk about mud, I don’t mean a slightly muddy dirt road. I mean shin deep goo. You drive a JK on Revo2s into deep mud, and that’s where it will stay until winched out.
Bridgestone calls the Revo2 an AT, but it’s no more than an All Season radial for light trucks. There’s nothing wrong with that, if you seldom venture off road it’s a good choice. Nonetheless, in my opinion, it is not an All Terrain tire in any realistic sense of the word.
Here's the M/S rated Revo2:

The following are genuine All Terrain tires. All excel in snow and offer high levels of traction on any terrain, including mud. All have self-cleaning outer lugs. All are well siped for packed snow and ice.
Here's the Severe Winter Rated Duratrac (pinned for studs):

Here's the Severe Winter Service rated Dunlop Maxx Traction (my winter tire):

Here's the Kelly Safari TSR (pinned for studs):

Here's the Cooper Discovery S/T Sure Traction, my three season tire (pinned for studs):

It comes down to what you expect and require. There's nothing wrong with choosing the Revo2, as long as you recognize its limitations.
Shallow tread depth reduces ability to self-clean because there is less mass to spin out. Tight, shallow treads do not self-clean well.
When I talk about mud, I don’t mean a slightly muddy dirt road. I mean shin deep goo. You drive a JK on Revo2s into deep mud, and that’s where it will stay until winched out.
Bridgestone calls the Revo2 an AT, but it’s no more than an All Season radial for light trucks. There’s nothing wrong with that, if you seldom venture off road it’s a good choice. Nonetheless, in my opinion, it is not an All Terrain tire in any realistic sense of the word.
Here's the M/S rated Revo2:

The following are genuine All Terrain tires. All excel in snow and offer high levels of traction on any terrain, including mud. All have self-cleaning outer lugs. All are well siped for packed snow and ice.
Here's the Severe Winter Rated Duratrac (pinned for studs):

Here's the Severe Winter Service rated Dunlop Maxx Traction (my winter tire):

Here's the Kelly Safari TSR (pinned for studs):

Here's the Cooper Discovery S/T Sure Traction, my three season tire (pinned for studs):

It comes down to what you expect and require. There's nothing wrong with choosing the Revo2, as long as you recognize its limitations.


