Transmission Clattering
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Transmission Clattering
I have a 2010 Rubicon with the 6 speed and 13k miles on it. After sitting for more than 30 minutes or so I have a Clattering Sound that sounds similar to lifters rapping like it was spark knocking but its coming from the transmission when I release the clutch for the first 500rpm's or so in first gear and then again the same sound and duration going into second gear. Then it stops until the engine has been off for more than 30 minutes. The colder my engine the louder the clattering is. But cold or hot the sound goes away till after it's sat for awhile.
Thought maybe the throw out bearing issue but it only happens going into 1st and 2nd. Thought maybe it was taking a while to get the oil to the gears but the oil is full. Strange sound for a trans with only 13k miles on it. Any thoughts?
Thought maybe the throw out bearing issue but it only happens going into 1st and 2nd. Thought maybe it was taking a while to get the oil to the gears but the oil is full. Strange sound for a trans with only 13k miles on it. Any thoughts?
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Yep, have noticed the same sound occasionally on my '09; kind of a rythmic tapping/slapping sound and yeah, now that you mention it sitting cold for a while will bring it on. I always assumed that it was the throw out bearing but because it only happens occasionally and the bearing hasn't started to squeal yet I've not been too worried; with 45K miles on it now it doesn't seem to do it as much as it did when new. I initially thought that it may be the input shaft bearing however it makes the noise with the clutch either in or out so I discounted this earlier theory of mine.
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Mine only does it as I let the clutch out for about 2 to 3 seconds after the clutch engages as I increase about 500rpm. Stops when I push the clutch in and starts again as I let it back out. But only during 1st and 2nd gear, maybe a little noise occasionally when going into 3rd. Then that's it it's good for the rest of my trip.
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Mine only does it as I let the clutch out for about 2 to 3 seconds after the clutch engages as I increase about 500rpm. Stops when I push the clutch in and starts again as I let it back out. But only during 1st and 2nd gear, maybe a little noise occasionally when going into 3rd. Then that's it it's good for the rest of my trip.
Usually on other vehicles this is a sign of either oil or contaminates on the flywheel or a weak or broken spring on the clutch disc itself however on the JK it appears to be common and not necessarily linked to component faults. Apparantly the OEM clutch on the JK has a high metal content in the friction material that oxidizes when the clutch gets cold, particularly so if the air is also damp, leading to judder when starting off from cold until a few applications of the clutch has worn this material away; apparantly the springs on these things are also not particularly heavy-duty which compounds the problem. Mine will do this occasionally under the cold and damp conditions I mentioned or when I've babied the clutch too much and allowed these contaminants to build up on the friction surfaces.
If it actually is clutch judder you're describing then although you may still have one of the other issues I mentioned, it is more than likely that it is just typical behaviour for these JK clutches and not too much to worry about.
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Hmm never really thought about that. I'm sure it has gotten wet and the climate here is damp. I'm not aware of any after market clutches, PP's or throw out bearings for the JK. Happen to know of any?
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I have a 2010 Rubicon, automatic... I noticed yesterday and today going up a short steep hill (pulling off from the main road so you have to start from 5 mph or so)... as soon as I start to climb the hill and get on the gas, I get a clattering sound (almost like really bad lifters) but it sounds like it's under the Jeep. I never heard it before, but with the doors off it was quite noticable.
any thoughts on this one? tranny or lifters? I have 26k miles...
any thoughts on this one? tranny or lifters? I have 26k miles...
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