Tyres
JK Newbie
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From: Ann Arbor
Have you ever used them or read anything about them reviews or other people's responses? I think you should check they are very highly rated and if they were so horrible why would discount pay to have an exact version under a different name sold only in their stores? Blems can come from every manufacturer and no offense but some times techs don't mount things properly. Heck I had a discount tech put 1.5 ounces of weight on 3 tires and 7.25 on the fourth. I took it back and made them line it up right and shaved off 5 ounces so unless you have tested the tire yourself maybe you shouldn't be so against a tire. I work in a motorcycle shop and I could say dunlops are crap because I'm changing them all the time or that person may like to do burn outs or isn't running the proper psi lots of factors play in and just because you spend lots of money on a tire it doesn't mean it's better you have to get one that fits your needs. Such as what type of terrain will I be on how much will I go offroad what is more important to you traction or mileage. There's my 2c
JK Junkie
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From: West Richland Washington
I installed them on my mothers 2002 TJ, my best friends ZR2 and my aunts 2012 Rubi. Terrible tire. Each one of them had ride complaints as well as chunking and in even wear due to manufacture defaults. Discount tire sells tires in categories. Good, better and best. Those fall in our Good category for a reason and that's because if you want a cheaper all terrain and can't afford a better or best tire we'd rather sell you one than have you go off to belle, Goodyear, or Firestone so we keep them in stock for customers either low on cash or don't feel like spending a grand on a best set. I deal with this type of tire ignorance all day, and I can sit there telling you what you want to hear or what I think is better for your vehicle and pocket book. Just trying to help. Mafia, Go ahead and install Rocky Mountains on your jeep, we won't stop you but I'd rather someone be happy with the tires they're buying. Discount techs go through various tests and training in theses categories of tires, I've seen all of them peel apart and get destroyed, BFG and Goodyear as well but you'll get a better ride and off road on road life out of a better or best tire
Last edited by Tooadvanced; Mar 22, 2013 at 07:58 PM.
JK Junkie
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From: Israel
This is kinda a stupid statement for if they were such a bad tire and you are a "tire expert" why would you knowingly put such a horrible tire on you moms, best friend, and aunts vehicles. That would make you a bad friend and a bad family member(your most like a good friend and family member just making a point). I dont want to come off as rude but Ive been to a bunch of different discount tires and I would never buy from anywhere else but you guys push BFG WAY TO HARD. Falkens have nothing but great reviews and Ive been in numerous times a discount when ppl come in for a different tire and discount says OHH no get the 40 year old none changed tread design BFG AT its the best out there. Go pick up the newest issue of four wheeler and go to the back and look at the long term tester power wagon and look how the tire chunked and tore apart offroad. Yeah if you want a great street AT get the BFG, if you want a Great all around tire get the Falken or better yet go wheel with some ppl and ask what they like and ask y they like em.
Tread shape is just one factor in a tires' off/on road capability.
Groove width & depth are much more influential than their shape.
The rubbers' elasticity is critical for grabbing, both on & off road, and the BFG rubber is vey good.
From my experience on two 4x4s, the BFG are very good all-rounders, and lack only when there's need for wider grooves, such as in deep sand or mud. They also balance better than most.
Why change a tread design that works so well? They improved what counts -- the rubber compound.
When I got the '12 Rubi, I wanted the BFG AT again, in 35". They weren't available at the time, so I took the Mickey Thompson MTZ.
Most of the time, there's no noticeable difference from the BFG. They have the same grab on dry & wet road, and on most terrains. The BFG are load C, which I prefer. The MTZ are load D, but also more durable sidewalls.
For DD and most offroading, the BFG AT is one of the better choices.
It was lack of choice that made me pick the Mickey Thompson MTZ, but months of on & off roading made me appreciate this tire. It's real good.
When I compare the two, either tire has its small pros & cons. The choice depends on the type of wheeling: Deeper mud or deep soft sand - the MTZ. The rest - BFG AT. For roads - no significant difference.
Last edited by GJeep; Mar 23, 2013 at 03:37 AM.
JK Super Freak
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From: Lancaster Pa
JK Junkie
Joined: Feb 2013
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From: West Richland Washington
"40 year old none changed tread design BFG AT" --
Tread shape is just one factor in a tires' off/on road capability.
Groove width & depth are much more influential than their shape.
The rubbers' elasticity is critical for grabbing, both on & off road, and the BFG rubber is vey good.
From my experience on two 4x4s, the BFG are very good all-rounders, and lack only when there's need for wider grooves, such as in deep sand or mud. They also balance better than most.
Why change a tread design that works so well? They improved what counts -- the rubber compound.
When I got the '12 Rubi, I wanted the BFG AT again, in 35". They weren't available at the time, so I took the Mickey Thompson MTZ.
Most of the time, there's no noticeable difference from the BFG. They have the same grab on dry & wet road, and on most terrains. The BFG are load C, which I prefer. The MTZ are load D, but also more durable sidewalls.
For DD and most offroading, the BFG AT is one of the better choices.
It was lack of choice that made me pick the Mickey Thompson MTZ, but months of on & off roading made me appreciate this tire. It's real good.
When I compare the two, either tire has its small pros & cons. The choice depends on the type of wheeling: Deeper mud or deep soft sand - the MTZ. The rest - BFG AT. For roads - no significant difference.
Tread shape is just one factor in a tires' off/on road capability.
Groove width & depth are much more influential than their shape.
The rubbers' elasticity is critical for grabbing, both on & off road, and the BFG rubber is vey good.
From my experience on two 4x4s, the BFG are very good all-rounders, and lack only when there's need for wider grooves, such as in deep sand or mud. They also balance better than most.
Why change a tread design that works so well? They improved what counts -- the rubber compound.
When I got the '12 Rubi, I wanted the BFG AT again, in 35". They weren't available at the time, so I took the Mickey Thompson MTZ.
Most of the time, there's no noticeable difference from the BFG. They have the same grab on dry & wet road, and on most terrains. The BFG are load C, which I prefer. The MTZ are load D, but also more durable sidewalls.
For DD and most offroading, the BFG AT is one of the better choices.
It was lack of choice that made me pick the Mickey Thompson MTZ, but months of on & off roading made me appreciate this tire. It's real good.
When I compare the two, either tire has its small pros & cons. The choice depends on the type of wheeling: Deeper mud or deep soft sand - the MTZ. The rest - BFG AT. For roads - no significant difference.
Last edited by Tooadvanced; Mar 23, 2013 at 08:00 AM.
JK Junkie
Joined: Mar 2011
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From: Israel
Thats not the point Im trying to make. The point is that because discount tire gets a bigger percentage from BFG they call other tires crap and push those. Ive ran bfg's and they are a good tire but there are way better tires out there and so far the falkens seem to be one of those. I try to restain from getting pissy on the internet but when discount tire calls my brother (doschmafia) stupid and ignorant it sets me off and just cause you a tire tech doesnt make you an expert trust me, discount just installed the wrong rims on my jeep and tried to tell me they where right and I HAD TO CALL the manufacturer to set things straight, discount is taking care of me and eating 600 in rims and Ive got new ones on the way I would still not shop anywhere else but ahhh nevermind Ill just keep rambling. Ohh and for future reference BFG has had a 315/70/17 at for years with is 34.5x12.5 so when you get new ones there ya go
-- and had nothing to say about discount tire, certainly didn't try to counter your complaints about them... I'm not in the US...I've pointed to my personal experience with the BFG and Mickey Thompson MTZ, which has been very good with both.
Yes, there's 35" BFG, but they weren't available here when I converted to 35.
I'd have waited, but they also aren't kept regularly in stock. I'd hate to buy 5 other tires if/when I need just one BFG and can't get it within a day or two.
Last edited by GJeep; Mar 23, 2013 at 09:39 AM.
JK Junkie
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From: West Richland Washington
I understood your point -- -- and had nothing to say about discount tire, certainly didn't try to counter your complaints about them... I'm not in the US...
I've pointed to my personal experience with the BFG and Mickey Thompson MTZ, which has been very good with both.
Yes, there's 35" BFG, but they weren't available here when I converted to 35.
I'd have waited, but they also aren't kept regularly in stock. I'd hate to buy 5 other tires if/when I need just one BFG and can't get it within a day or two.
-- and had nothing to say about discount tire, certainly didn't try to counter your complaints about them... I'm not in the US...I've pointed to my personal experience with the BFG and Mickey Thompson MTZ, which has been very good with both.
Yes, there's 35" BFG, but they weren't available here when I converted to 35.
I'd have waited, but they also aren't kept regularly in stock. I'd hate to buy 5 other tires if/when I need just one BFG and can't get it within a day or two.