I hear ya on the 30K vehicle and don't blame you for wanting it right. I just come from the old school CJ crowd that looks at carpet like "what the F* is that" and considers the water leaks "just a jeep thing."

So...yeah maybe I should be more like you but hey. Its the USA. We all get to have our own opinions. ect.

Good luck!

 

You're exactly right!! i'm just a cheap SOB who wants everything to be perfect, lol.

 

I'm not quite old enough to be a part of the CJ crowd, but I'm right there with you on the "Man, it's a jeep" comment. Every time it rains I get leaks here and there (mainly the one by the a-pillar at the top of the door) and I just wipe it off and keep going. That little leak is nothing compared to the times I've been caught in the rain with my doors off. I pulled up at the taco bell drive through the other night with no doors in the rain and when I stopped at the window water poured off the top and onto my leg. The taco bell guy asked me if I needed some napkins ... I guess he didn't understand the jeep thing either.

I understand the $30k vehicle thing very well, but if you want an offroad vehicle that doesn't leak, get a hummer (and not an H1 either). You want the freedom to remove your top and doors at will? Expect some leaking (or to do some modifying yourself because I can promise you there is no factory defect nor is it Jeep's problem).

On another note: All of these people that complain about the little things like leaking, what do you guys do when you get the little pops, clunks, and squeaks from unknown suspension parts and whatnot?

 

Sorry, but some people fidn it hard to accept the fact that a $30k vehicle leaks. My a-pillar leak has nothign to do with the tops and sorrs coming off either. Its a freakin door seal issue that the dealer cant seem to fix. There's a TSB for it too.


Like I said before, I love the Jeep, and taking the top off on a hot day, there's not much better than that.

 

Not trying to start an arguement here, because this is your opinion and your entitled to think or believe whatever you want. But that wont stop me from saying, that you are just plain wrong. While I dont have a Jk, ive had numerous jeeps in the past. The jk is big step away from a cj. Yea they are both jeeps, but still you would think in the year of 2008, that DC, could come up with a design on door seals, as well as numerous other seals from the freedom top, to the soft top, to the whistles comming from the windshield, that dont leak. Im sorry you are wrong "A jeep thing" is no excuse for this. Weather stripping is a very simple design and concept, along with a removable top, you would think the enginers at DC, could comeup with a design that doesnt leak.
There isnt one excuse in the world that could justify all the leaks people are having. Bottom linke is, the jeep, as much as people hate to say it, is a automobile. And for most people their daily driver, not everyone drives through rain storms with their doors, off and laughs when there whole interior gets wet and starts to smell like a wet dog. I would never drive my $30k jk in a rain storm with the doors off. There is no excuse, and it is not a jeep thing. This whole "Jeep thing" is really a piss poor excuse people use to make them selves feel better about problems with their jk like the following.

1. Leaking soft top
2. Soft top back window being scratched or has waves in it
3. Freedom top leaking
4. Windsheid wiper bracket leaks and allows water inside the cabin.
5. Windshield whistles while driving due to back seal of the windsheild
6. Door hinges rusting
7. Hood bouncing
8. Catching fire
9. Stall bug
10. Death Wobble
11. Track bar snaping off axle, from welds
12. Axle clips falling out causing major axle faliure.
13. Very underpowered motor (mini van motor)
14. Tc shudder
Just to name a few. Dont get me wrong, I love the jK, and it is a great "jeep" But Dc needs to step up and realized people need more quality their autombiles now, expecially because how much they are charging for them. All fo these problems are very bad, and really wrong. Dc needs to do something about them because there are lots of people out there, that paid $30k for a jeep, only to have it act like a kia. Not cool. (sorry for the spelling errors, I started to go off in a rant, my bad)

 

Great post and I couldnt agree more. Maybe Chrysler would see some better sales results if they improved on the build quality?? Do they not care that foreign auto makers are taking over?

I love the looks of the Unlimited and it is certainly fun to drive. Two other things that influenced my purchase was i got the friends and family discount, and also the lifetime powertrain warranty. I am 36 and this is only my 4th vehicle, so you can probably figure out I keep my vehicles a long time. My last one, a 1996 GMC Yukon, I had for 8 years and out over 110k on it. The tranny started to go on it, otherwise I'd still be driving it.

 

For sure...like I said before I like the jk, I know it sounds as though I dont...But I really do. I think that Dc needs to put more quality into ALL of their automobiles. Its really sad that water leaks are riddled in the jk's. Thats just sad, a removable top is not a new concept and by now it should be fool proof. Hell, if my uncle's Same thing goes along with almost all the problems I listed before. Its like Dc has a great concept, good Ideas, but they fail to put all the pieces together and dont always put quality parts on their cars. If my uncles chrysler sebring's soft top (convertable top) doenst leak, then there shouldnt be a reason why the Jk's top to leak.

 

ROFL...Bring back AMC to get quality!!!

 

Yours may be a door seal issue, but mine is not. It has everything to do with the top being removable. With my hard top on, my jeep didn't leak once, but now that I've switched to the soft top it leaks. It leaks where the door surround meets the A pillar. Is the door surround possibly poorly designed and the source of all our problems? Possibly. Expect a recall soon? Nope.

I don't mean to sound condescending or anything, but I've really noticed a pattern amongst JK owners with this being their first experience with a real jeep (if the doors and top don't come off it doesn't count i.e. ZJ, WJ, KJ, XJ, etc.). It seems like they're all so excited about getting the new Jeep that anytime the slightest thing goes wrong they're like "OMGZ A PROBLEM! LOL! OFF TO THE DEALER!"

The "jeep thing" that you so often hear about is the idea that originally a person who drove a jeep was a technical person who loved the fact that jeeps were simple and reliable and easy to fix quickly on the trail or side of the road if something happened. (This is also where the jeep wave originated... or what used to be the jeep wave.) These people weren't the type to take their jeep to the dealership and say "My jeep's acting funny; can you fix it and call me when it's ready?" And honestly I don't think that that's a mentality that anybody should have still.

Before I take my jeep to a stealership I do everything I can to diagnose the problem (and fix it if possible). If you take the time to do this you can either skip the dealership altogether or at least when you get there you have the knowledge to say "This is what's wrong, and this is what you need to do to fix it." I bet you'll learn something new about your jeep (that you can share here as this forum really doesn't have a ton of tech info on it) and you'll probably be more pleased with the results you get from your stealership.

Oh well, this is just my opinion. Maybe I need to accept the fact that jeeps have changed and probably most people buy their JK's to be just another "car" (which would explain why I've seen so many JK's called "cars" on here ).

 

I had real bad leak on both sides of our 4 door at the B-piliars. I tried to fix it many times myself with no sucess. I tried everything, (except the dealer and did not want to deal with the dealer BS). I work for a body shop and do leaks all the time. I came to the conclusion that its a poor design.

Long story short, traded the Jeep for something else, beside it was a 4 X 2 and wanted a 4 X 4 after, so I will wait until they comeup with a new design down the road (1-2 years). Loved the Jeep just cannot have that with a daily driver.