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JK Jedi
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From: Georgia
they really arnt that bad, but you have to understand what a torque senseing diff does to understand why it still acts like a open diff during a burnout
an open difff provides both tires equal torque all the time.......ie...if one tire only needs 5 ft/lbs to spin , thats all either get
our lsd give the other tire 2.7 times as much torque
a locker splits engine torque 50/50 regardless of tire spin
google torsen limited slips and there is lots of info out there
an open difff provides both tires equal torque all the time.......ie...if one tire only needs 5 ft/lbs to spin , thats all either get
our lsd give the other tire 2.7 times as much torque
a locker splits engine torque 50/50 regardless of tire spin
google torsen limited slips and there is lots of info out there
Is that what's in there is a Torsen? That's a gear driven LSD. If that's what it is, I don't feel soo bad.
JK Enthusiast
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From: Edmonton, Alberta
No
Torsen would be far worse... pointless, actually. As I posted before:
Geared LSDs are less prone to wear than the clutch type, but both output shafts have to be loaded to keep the proper torque distribution characteristics. Once an output shaft becomes free (e.g. one driven wheel lifts off the ground; or a summer tire comes over ice while another is on dry tarmac when the car goes uphill), no torque is transmitted to the second shaft and the torque-sensitive differential behaves like an open differential.
JK Jedi
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From: Georgia
I know which types do what. I ain't worried about that. I don't need a lesson in how differentials work. I've probably repaired, replaced and rebuilt more of them then most of you here COMBINED. Redneck Houston said it was a Torsen, and his word carried weight with me, because I've seen the pictures of where he HAS the experience enough to know. I haven't had the cover off one of these new ones yet, so I don't which type it is. I can tell you this.....IF it IS a clutch type, I stick by my guns. It SUCKS ASS.
JK Enthusiast
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I know which types do what. I ain't worried about that. I don't need a lesson in how differentials work. I've probably repaired, replaced and rebuilt more of them then most of you here COMBINED. Redneck Houston said it was a Torsen, and his word carried weight with me, because I've seen the pictures of where he HAS the experience enough to know. I haven't had the cover off one of these new ones yet, so I don't which type it is. I can tell you this.....IF it IS a clutch type, I stick by my guns. It SUCKS ASS.
THAT SAID, why would you want a Torsen LSD for an offroad vehicle? Actually, please tell me because I don't know why. As stated, a torsen diff becomes an open diff as soon as 1 wheel has little or no traction. Pretty much all vehicles listed here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torsen#Torsen_applications
that use a Torsen diff are sports cars.
Anyway, both wikipedia and a previous write-up say that it's clutch-type. That, and REDNECKHOUSTON didn't even say it WAS a Torsen diff, he just said "google torsen diff".
JK Jedi
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From: Georgia
First of all, I'm not trying to teach you anything, I'm simply regurgitating what I've learned between this morning and right now. I'm not an expert and don't claim to be. Take a pill.
THAT SAID, why would you want a Torsen LSD for an offroad vehicle? Actually, please tell me because I don't know why. As stated, a torsen diff becomes an open diff as soon as 1 wheel has little or no traction. Pretty much all vehicles listed here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torsen#Torsen_applications
that use a Torsen diff are sports cars.
Anyway, both wikipedia and a previous write-up say that it's clutch-type. That, and REDNECKHOUSTON didn't even say it WAS a Torsen diff, he just said "google torsen diff".
THAT SAID, why would you want a Torsen LSD for an offroad vehicle? Actually, please tell me because I don't know why. As stated, a torsen diff becomes an open diff as soon as 1 wheel has little or no traction. Pretty much all vehicles listed here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torsen#Torsen_applications
that use a Torsen diff are sports cars.
Anyway, both wikipedia and a previous write-up say that it's clutch-type. That, and REDNECKHOUSTON didn't even say it WAS a Torsen diff, he just said "google torsen diff".
JK Enthusiast
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From: Edmonton, Alberta
I'm not sure, but doesn't a clutch type work better (ie - work at all) when a wheel is off the ground? Based on my understanding, the clutches engage with driveshaft torque, thus even when a wheel is off the ground it should still function as a LSD, not an open diff like the Torsen. If my understanding is wrong, tell me
JK Jedi
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From: Georgia
Apologies for the pill comment, it sounded like you were mildly upset
I'm not sure, but doesn't a clutch type work better (ie - work at all) when a wheel is off the ground? Based on my understanding, the clutches engage with driveshaft torque, thus even when a wheel is off the ground it should still function as a LSD, not an open diff like the Torsen. If my understanding is wrong, tell me
I'm not sure, but doesn't a clutch type work better (ie - work at all) when a wheel is off the ground? Based on my understanding, the clutches engage with driveshaft torque, thus even when a wheel is off the ground it should still function as a LSD, not an open diff like the Torsen. If my understanding is wrong, tell me
