4 ohm vs 2 ohm
05-02-2013, 06:33 PM
#21
Actually....The Tighter the space and Air Movement controlled, the less Bump you get....The Vented enclosure gives more Air Movement which causes more BUMP......
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Advantages of Vented Enclosures
1 - Reduced cone excursion and reduced distortion around vent tuning.
2 - Increased output capabilities around vent tuning.
3 - Vented boxes allow for specialized sound qualities such as the "bump" often preferred for rap and rock & roll.
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Advantages of Sealed Enclosures
1 - High power handling capability
2 - Extended low frequency response and smooth rolloff (12dB/octave)
3 - Excellent transient response.
4 - Tolerant of minor enclosure size variations.
5 - Easiest enclosure to build. Disadvantages of Sealed Enclosures
1 - Requires a woofer with a longer voice coil.
With regard tithe above. Vented enclosures have higher power handling above the tuning frequency than sealed enclosure. They also have basically NO power handling below the tuning of the vent. Is that on the kicker website? Both enclosure types are just as easy to build. If you know what you're doing.
What I meant by "no air leaks" doesn't mean to make people think I'm not suggesting a vented enclosure. I am suggesting a properly sealed enclosure, wether vented(3rd order) or sealed(2nd order). I'm only suggesting attention to detail with regards to mounting and craftsmanship. Not particular design. Does the kicker website tell you of the disadvantages of vented enclosures? Probably not since their woofers are tailored for vented enclosures. Want to know what they are?
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05-02-2013, 06:36 PM
#22
Using a 2 ohm system is the Reason Smaller Gauge wiring can be used....It's more Efficent in many ways and the Outcome makes it all worth it....Now people changing Components of this system and not Knowing the specs or being Mislead with Ideas and start chaging the speakers to 4 ohms etc, ends up in the long run shortening the Life of the Amp or Overheat it more, use more power etc and Maybe be some of the Reason those New Wranglers were Catching Fire and Destroyed...lOL.......If any changes to a systems specs, any device, all should change to meet the New specs....It's like that A/C 115 volt Outlet in the Console...What gauge would you think it is?..Things like that....
The Best setup in sound was the First High Prem Setup, Infinity 8 channel Amp, Prem Harman/Infinity Speakers with the Fronts being Bi-Amped...WoW...Nothing has beat the Sound yet....Simply 99% perfect with Ass Kickers Added inside Front seats to Feel the Bass, Perfect Wrangler System...
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05-03-2013, 12:08 AM
#23
It works to Make Movies feel Real, 3D alive.....Why would i want to go the Lower end of the Choices.....
05-03-2013, 04:25 AM
#24
Me, Myself, and I like to Feel My Bass, which is Exactly what it does. I'm not a Teenager anymore trying to make sure the World knows I have Air Moving Loudly...My Ears already have that Technology built in....I'm a Grown Up that i don't need it Heard 3 miles ahead of me, it is heard by others as a Tuned Bass without being Rudely Dumb to others, but I get the Exact/BETTER Boom,(which is feeling the BASS), without screaming Look at ME!!!!!!!
It works to Make Movies feel Real, 3D alive.....Why would i want to go the Lower end of the Choices.....
On the subject of noise pollution? I agree. Nothing is worse than hearing a ghetto ass car rattling down the road with music that sounds like a silver back gorilla trying to burst out of the trunk. That's not great bass either. Great bass to me is one super bad ass 8" woofer playing with 500 watts and having frequency response to DC.
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05-03-2013, 07:15 AM
#25
JK Super Freak
I cant quite tell if this has been covered yet.
The JK Inifinity system is a weird animal. Bass from the sub is at it's max level when the fader is at 0. Swing it to the rear, and the sub loses output. Swing it to the front, and it loses output.
I think what's happening is that the new rear speakers at 4-ohms aren't loading the factory amp like the 2-ohm factory speakers are. In effect, it's like running the fader at say "4" to the front. For whatever, reason the channels are reliant on each other and sub output is reduced.
The JK Inifinity system is a weird animal. Bass from the sub is at it's max level when the fader is at 0. Swing it to the rear, and the sub loses output. Swing it to the front, and it loses output.
I think what's happening is that the new rear speakers at 4-ohms aren't loading the factory amp like the 2-ohm factory speakers are. In effect, it's like running the fader at say "4" to the front. For whatever, reason the channels are reliant on each other and sub output is reduced.
05-04-2013, 01:16 AM
#26
It's not the lower end of choices. And it does have its uses. Tactile transducers have been around a while. Like you said, in IMAX theaters and Six Flag rides. And GREAT bass isn't what you hear 3 miles away. Unless you think thunder storms and trains are great references. I do. Haha. Great bass is bass that sounds like it is supposed to sound. And great imaging and staging in a car is only achieved with great bass. One of the HARDEST things to achieve in a car is bass that sounds like it is coming from the front of a vehicle when the only room for an enclosure is behind you. Tactile sensations are the culprit for ruining great bass in cars. If the sound feels like its coming from under your ass, how is it gonna SOUND like its coming from the bass guitar or kick drum IN FRONT OF YOU. if someone taps you on the back, you turn around. If they kicked you in the ass, you wouldn't look straight ahead. Tactile in a car is wrong. And , IMO , it is even more immature. Kinda why it's in IMAX and Six Flag rides. Kids like it.
On the subject of noise pollution? I agree. Nothing is worse than hearing a ghetto ass car rattling down the road with music that sounds like a silver back gorilla trying to burst out of the trunk. That's not great bass either. Great bass to me is one super bad ass 8" woofer playing with 500 watts and having frequency response to DC.
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On the subject of noise pollution? I agree. Nothing is worse than hearing a ghetto ass car rattling down the road with music that sounds like a silver back gorilla trying to burst out of the trunk. That's not great bass either. Great bass to me is one super bad ass 8" woofer playing with 500 watts and having frequency response to DC.
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05-04-2013, 06:02 AM
#27
Bass which is Boom Boom and asking what it will sound like coming from a Guitar? A Subwoofer speaker won't let you hear the Whinning sound of a High Volume Instrument....Isn't a SubWoofer for Bass, LOWwww...not the high pitch of Bass Guitars....Besides, Subwoofers are for the Feel, you aren't suppose to hear a define voice or instrument ....it's the boom, boom is felt......Ear Drum, Boom....The Hearing is by Vibrations....That's how the new head phones....Google Glass work with audio....Nothing goes into or over the Ear.....Skull
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05-04-2013, 07:53 AM
#28
EXACTLY, That is what your questions get the same Response.....Here this Sound pro website explains it better for you to see how what I'm saying is the Quality of the sound and not the loudness that you prefer ...
Slow, muddy and uncontrolled bass is what too many subwoofers on the market sound like. Most people do not know what sub bass distortion actually sounds like so they believe that their sub sounds pretty good or are unable to see the value in this type of technology.<<<<<THESE IS SO TRUE IT HURTS.....
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Slow, muddy and uncontrolled bass is what too many subwoofers on the market sound like. Most people do not know what sub bass distortion actually sounds like so they believe that their sub sounds pretty good or are unable to see the value in this type of technology.<<<<<THESE IS SO TRUE IT HURTS.....
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Ultimately, a subwoofer should never sound like a subwoofer. It should integrate so well with the main speakers that it is indistinguishable in the system. It should never call attention to itself. The bass should simply be more detailed, extended and powerful; the sound more open, transparent and articulate. This consistency of sound, a natural coherence, is essential to long term listening enjoyment.
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05-04-2013, 05:12 PM
#29
EXACTLY, That is what your questions get the same Response.....Here this Sound pro website explains it better for you to see how what I'm saying is the Quality of the sound and not the loudness that you prefer ...
Slow, muddy and uncontrolled bass is what too many subwoofers on the market sound like. Most people do not know what sub bass distortion actually sounds like so they believe that their sub sounds pretty good or are unable to see the value in this type of technology.<<<<<THESE IS SO TRUE IT HURTS.....
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Ultimately, a subwoofer should never sound like a subwoofer. It should integrate so well with the main speakers that it is indistinguishable in the system. It should never call attention to itself. The bass should simply be more detailed, extended and powerful; the sound more open, transparent and articulate. This consistency of sound, a natural coherence, is essential to long term listening enjoyment.
When Is It Better To Go Without A Subwoofer?
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