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Old Jul 20, 2013 | 10:27 PM
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Have you tried calling an electrical shop and have them convert the winch to 12v? Just the motor rewound (if that, I dont think 24v motors differ all that much) and solenoids need to be changed over. I think its going to end up being more of a show piece though. Heavy as sin and the slowest line speed around, the bigger winches are super low geared. Plus 24v motors draw low amps, if it was 12v doing a real pull I think its going to pull some serious amps.

Then again I've had an 8000lbs winch on my jeep for 2 years now and I've only used it twice to pull dead vehicles up my buddies steep driveway. As long as it looks good.
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Old Jul 21, 2013 | 08:54 AM
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Run it on 12V. It will be fine just slow..... half the rated line speed. My dad has run an 18K 24V on a 12V new holland tractor for 12 years this way winching trees and stumps in VT.
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Old Jul 24, 2013 | 06:14 AM
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Originally Posted by ToolManTimTaylor
Run it on 12V. It will be fine just slow..... half the rated line speed. My dad has run an 18K 24V on a 12V new holland tractor for 12 years this way winching trees and stumps in VT.
Really? I've heard I can do this but was a bit skeptical. Would be way easier this way, no doubt. Thanks.
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Old Jul 24, 2013 | 09:15 AM
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You can run an electrical motor at 1/2 voltage just fine. We do this a lot on systems I design to control the speed of the motor crudely where we are not using a sophisticated controller. You will start to see issues if you try to run below the 1/2 voltage mark ie trying to run the winch at 8 volts instead of 12 for a 24v motor.
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Old Jul 24, 2013 | 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by oleskool
You can run an electrical motor at 1/2 voltage just fine. We do this a lot on systems I design to control the speed of the motor crudely where we are not using a sophisticated controller. You will start to see issues if you try to run below the 1/2 voltage mark ie trying to run the winch at 8 volts instead of 12 for a 24v motor.
I can see the lower voltage being used to control motor speed, but why would 1/2 be the point below which issues begin to show up?

Also, at 12 volts, the rated "pull" of the 24 volt winch will be significantly lower.
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Old Aug 11, 2013 | 07:26 PM
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Well I figured it out
It took 2 extra batteries, some wire and some connectors.

I built a box from some old deck wood that fits behind the rear seat that holds 2 extra batteries. It locks shut with the hasp I stalled so when I have no doors or top it provides extra secure storage. It's also bolted to the rear seat mounting bracket so in the event of a rollover it is not a trajectory.

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How do you keep them charged you ask?

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Simple, just run 2 strands of 8 gauge from the alternator to the batteries. Their grounded locally. But that just gives you 12 V not the 24 you need. Great observation.

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24 V hookup
I bought some 2 gauge jumper cables, cut the clamps off, attached copper ends. I have a red and black 2 awg line running from the batteries to the winch. When not in use I just spin the wing nuts attach the 8 awg that run to the alternator and they stay charged.

And a 550 cord handle.

Less than 100 buck to make it operational.

BAM!
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Old Aug 11, 2013 | 11:05 PM
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Oh boy....battery acid and hydrogen gas inside the Jeep?

Please tell me those are gel batteries
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Old Aug 11, 2013 | 11:23 PM
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I learned a lot reading this thread. Can anyone point me to a site that will teach me the basics and intermediate knowledge of eletronics and wiring? Anything I google isn't quite what I'm looking for. If anyone knows of a book too that would be fantastic.
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Old Aug 12, 2013 | 08:26 PM
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A little battery acid and hydrogen gas never hurt anyone.
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Old Aug 12, 2013 | 08:57 PM
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not sure how it will react at 12v. my experience with DC motors is that they do work at 1/2 voltage (RPM is basically cut in half) but torque drops exponentially as voltage decreases. if you are running a 24v motor at 12v, you're probably only going to get about 1/10 as much torque as you'd get at 24v.

i don't think it would hurt to test it out, but you might not be able to pull much...
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