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Old Oct 7, 2011 | 02:52 PM
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Recently got a standard jk my other jeep was a Tj auto. Im still new to the whole standard game and often time kill it trying to climb over something even tho ice gotten better I just wanna hear from you guys as to which is better off reading and any tips r welcomed
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Old Oct 7, 2011 | 03:04 PM
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With your typo of reading, I would say auto is better. lol

But, I have a 6 speed also. Makes it a little harder for some situations off-road.

All in all, glad I have standard.
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Old Oct 9, 2011 | 07:45 PM
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I also have a 6 speed, after a little practice you'll get the hang of it. Use 4 low in water, you can put it in gear and then start it without using the clutch cause you don't want water and debris flowing into the clutch. I also use 4 low when climbing or just going through something slow so i don't have to ride the clutch, you can just ride the brakes instead. Hope this helps
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Old Oct 10, 2011 | 01:19 AM
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Personally I'd use 4-lo anytime you're off-road. 4-hi has very limited uses, especially with the stick. Just keep her in low and change the gears as needed depending on the conditions. Mine is usually in 2nd during most trail rides, every so often I see 3rd. If you need it, you have 6 gears in 4-lo, just don't go over 25mph. I only use 1st for downhills or tricky sections where I want to idle through. Unless you installed tires way oversized for your diff gearing, you should be able to let the clutch out in 4-lo and 1st without any need for gas in most conditions.
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Old Oct 10, 2011 | 04:06 AM
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Mines an auto, I wouldn't have bought anything but that. Mines a daily driver and I do some mild rock crawling every now and then.
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Old Oct 10, 2011 | 04:10 AM
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I love my 6 speed and happy I didn't get an auto like I planned. Even my daily driver XJ is a 5 speed and I love it too. I like off roading with a 6 speed: makes me connect with the Jeep and the environment more IMO.
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Old Oct 10, 2011 | 04:14 AM
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Originally Posted by ZMagic97
makes me connect with the Jeep and the environment more IMO.
Now I wish I had gotten a manual..
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Old Oct 10, 2011 | 01:54 PM
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Thanks guys the 4lo advice helps a bunch I didn't know any of that
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Old Oct 14, 2011 | 03:32 AM
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If I'm on a loose surface, but not dealing with any serious obstacles or climbs, I'm in 4-high. But as soon as I run into something like that, I switch to 4-low and stay there until I know I'm not going to need it again soon. I've stalled it off road (I only have 3.21 gears), but it takes almost a determined effort to do so.

If you want to see just what 4-low gets you, find an empty field (or gravel road or something), shift to 4-low and 1st gear, then let off the clutch. You'll start rolling forward. Now step on the brake. Harder. Stand on it, push as hard as you can. If you've got low gears (such as a Rubicon does) and stock-sized tires, you can't stall it. Well, maybe if you're up against an obstacle at the same time, but even then maybe not. In a Sport or a X, you can, but it takes a heck of a lot of force. You can use the brake to control your speed even without pressing the clutch. Just don't overdo it... Brakes heat up quick and can take a good bit of time to cool back down, and if they overheat they loose most of their stopping power. So it's usually better to downshift. Still, braking while under power can come in handy when you're trying to negotiate some obstacles.

While you're still in that empty field, try this as well. Again in 4-low and 1st, let the Jeep idle along. Now, without doing anything else, turn the ignition off. The Jeep will shudder a bit as it comes to a quick stop. Next, without touching the clutch or brake, start the Jeep. Since you're in 4-low, you don't need to press the clutch to start the Jeep. It'll jump just a bit, then start idling forward again. Get used to doing that, because if you have to stop and start midway through an obstacle, that's the best way to do so. If you're on a very steep hill and try to use the clutch, well, unless you've got really fast feet things might get a bit interesting. You can also do it in 2nd or even 3rd, which is handy for when you're doing water crossings. Like someone else said already, don't ever push your clutch in when your tranny might be even partially underwater. You might suck something between your clutch plates and that won't be fun to fix (or cheap). Instead, pick the gear you want before hand - and you can almost never pick a gear too low (all a low gear might do is make it take a little longer to get across). And if you have to stop, just turn your ignition off. Same goes for starting.

Having a stick means you get to pick and choose what gear you want for the situation. It means you have to do a little more work, but ultimately, you have more control. Have fun out there!
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Old Oct 14, 2011 | 11:51 AM
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I have an automatic, and prefer it.

But I hate getting behind someone on the trails that has a manual, its always the one that doesn't know how to use their clutch and rolls back towards me all the time!

So, my advice is, please learn how not to use the clutch pedal. The guy behind you on the trails will thank you for it.
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