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Old May 10, 2016 | 12:19 PM
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Here's a simple demonstration of how quickly a Wrangler can accelerate with our Stage 2 turbo system with Precision turbo for the 3.6 Pentastar engine

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSdc8MUdCQ0 I find it quite interesting how this video demonstrates how much the aerodynamics of the Wrangler affects it at high speeds. The Mustang really starts closing the gap near the end of the race thanks to it's more traditional car-shaped aerodynamics, but it's too little too late.

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Old May 11, 2016 | 07:57 AM
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That's impressive......and I like the new mustangs too. A boosted or supercharged pentastar is no joke.

You still running the stock drive shafts?
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Old May 11, 2016 | 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by DJ1
A turbocharged pentastar is no joke.
Fixed that for you


Originally Posted by DJ1
You still running the stock drive shafts?
Yes. All stock engine internals, transmission (automatic), driveshafts and axle shafts. No drivetrain upgrades.

It is, however, modified a bit beyond the out-of-the-box Stage 2 turbo kit. It has a performance cat-back Magnaflow exhaust and is also running a boost controller to increase boost a bit to about 9.1 psi. Out of the box on wastegate spring pressure only, I saw about 8.0 psi max with the Precision turbo on my Jeep. So the performance demonstrated here is a bit more than the standard out-of-the-box performance, but easily attainable.

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Old May 11, 2016 | 07:42 PM
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A few more details about the Jeep in that video...

It also has a high-stall torque converter and custom TCM (Transmission Control Module) programming - upcoming product offerings from Prodigy Performance

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Old May 12, 2016 | 02:45 AM
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And still way cheaper than a v8 swap....

Very nice.
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Old May 12, 2016 | 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by BFYTW
And still way cheaper than a v8 swap....

Very nice.
Not necessarily.
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Old May 12, 2016 | 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Da20captain
Not necessarily.
Sure. Ok.
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Originally Posted by Da20captain
Not necessarily.
Yeah... most of the time it's going to be cheaper. Looking at their systems, both (2007-2011 and the 2012-2015) would run $6100 for a automatic for their base system. I'm sure I could install this myself. I installed an SC on my 2011 3.8 myself in a day. Most folks won't be able to install a V8 themselves, let alone in a day (or even three).

I admit that I'm damned curious to take a ride in a 2012+ with a turbo and compare it to my 6.0L.

Also wonder about what fuel you have to run (didn't see it on the site). When I had the SC, I had to run 91 octane or higher (even though the manufacturer said it could run on 87). With my 6.0L I run 87 octane with no issues and it pulls strong.
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Old May 12, 2016 | 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Da20captain
Not necessarily.
Please explain.

And don't tell me about budget DIY junkyard 5.7 Hemi or 5.3 LS conversions. The smaller V8s are not worth comparing to the turbo. Look at the cost of a 6.2 LS or 6.4 Hemi conversion if you want to try to get in the same ballpark of the amount of power that the Stage 2 turbo produces.

And the "save a lot of money by doing the V8 conversion yourself" approach doesn't work for most people. There's a big difference in the amount of skill, knowledge, confidence, space, time, and tools required for a V8 conversion vs installing a turbo kit.

For those that can't do the install themselves, the cost difference is huge.

Big V8 conversions are about $29k total parts and labor for a shop to do it.

The Stage 2 turbo is about $8.5k total parts and labor for a shop to do it. And it makes more power than the big V8 conversions, and has better fuel economy

If you're a competent DIY kinda person, you can save about $1k by installing the turbo kit in your driveway over a weekend with help from a friend. We even have a series of youtube videos that walk you through the entire install process with tips and alternative approaches explained throughout.

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Old May 12, 2016 | 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by jedg
I'm sure I could install this myself. I installed an SC on my 2011 3.8 myself in a day.
You could definitely install the turbo yourself. The install is a bit more involved than a supercharger install, so it would take a bit longer, but still comfortably a weekend project (especially if you watch our videos ahead of time; see my previous post).

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I admit that I'm damned curious to take a ride in a 2012+ with a turbo and compare it to my 6.0L.
We offer test drives. Keep an eye out in the vendors forum for announcements about events/shows we will be at. Coming up next month, we'll be at the Unlimited Off-Road Expo in Louisville, KY. We're also at Jeep Beach in Daytona Beach, FL every year.

Originally Posted by jedg
Also wonder about what fuel you have to run (didn't see it on the site).
Minimum 91 octane required. This and more is answered here: https://www.jk-forum.com/forums/modi...thread-332772/
(and if you don't find an answer you're looking for, then please ask).

BTW - Many people report an increase in fuel economy by a couple MPG after installing the turbo (when driving it "normally").

At one point, with gas prices at the time, I calculated that I was doing slightly better than breaking even on fuel costs per mile compared to stock, taking into consideration the change in fuel economy and the difference in price between premium and regular fuel. Of course, YMMV based on driving habits, traffic patterns, type of driving (city, highway, freeway), other vehicle mods, etc.

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