2012 JK Fires
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2012 JK Fires
Apparently there is more to the random fires than just the skid plate like chrysler claimed on the pre 2012s. I just found out about this guy...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5Ut9pFA-ZQ and this guy...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTEd_M8ANvw This kind of worries me....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5Ut9pFA-ZQ and this guy...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTEd_M8ANvw This kind of worries me....
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From: East Bridgewater, MA
I can't see the video at work but I've been saying there was no way that the skid plate was the main cause of the fires in the 2010's. Chrysler has sent me dozens of notices about my 2010 skid and I refuse to take it in for the skid bar replacment. However, I am not completely stupid so I always check for debris that might get stuck in there during a trail run. Most of my wheeling is rocks so I don't have to worry much about collecting grass and leaves and such.... But still...the "hot oil" situation, in my mind, is probably more of the culprit than the skid plate.
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From: Shalimar, Fl
We had a problem on our 13 jku were the fuel line had a whole rubbed into it by the drive shift because the lines were not installed right and they were just leaning right against it. If my husband hasn't stop because he smelled gas it would have caught fire.
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A likely candidate for starting fires is by leaving a Cell phone charger or iPod charger plugged into the always on outlet.
So what can happen with these cell phone chargers is that while they're plugged in and charging, they heat up and then can get water condensation inside of the charging device due to temperature changes inside the vehicle. So we all have been told that water and electric don't mix right? So now you have water and electric mixing, which can then cause components inside of the charger to be shorted and start drawing more current then they should. This then causes these components to heat up, burn and additionally catch the cheap plastic housings of the charger on fire. Then once the plastic housing catches fire of the charger, then this can spread to the plastic bezel surrounding the charging socket, then the next thing you know, your entire Jeep is on fire.
So something to take note of in both of those videos posted. Notice how both of them occurred during the night? Coincidence? Possibly....However.....How many of us have plugged our phone into the charger in our Jeep, drove home, gotten out and forgot our phone in the Jeep over night where it was plugged in and charging all night? Well, right there is a possibility for a fire situation which most of us don't even think about.
Chrysler is one of the few automotive companies that still makes vehicles where the power outlet stays on when you take the key out of the ignition. Personally, I like the convenience of that. However, try to buy a new Toyota where the power outlet stays on after you leave the vehicle. So Toyota does this for a reason, and it's because of the exact reason I outlined and because of the most likely conclusion everyone in this discussion is jumping to...."The vehicle caught on fire....something is wrong with the vehicle." So Toyota is concerned with their reputation. Afterall, they want to be known for making a high "quality" car and have spent lots of money doing just that. So when someone leaves a cheap Chinese made phone charger, plugged in the vehicle and charging all night in a moist environment and their Toyota suddenly catches on fire during the night, do you think most people would think their phone charger was the reason the vehicle caught on fire, or do you think they would blame the vehicle? Most would be scratching their heads and trying to figure out why their new Toyota caught on fire just like everyone is doing in this discussion. So Toyota eliminates that speculation scenario which could leave them black eyes for something that isn't even their fault....they don't leave the power outlets on when you turn off the ignition in your vehicle, so you cell phone and/or iPod charger can start a fire when you're not present. If you're driving and this happens, most people are smart enough to unplug the device when they see/smell smoke. If this happens when you're not there, then like they say, "Where there's smoke, there's fire."
So what can happen with these cell phone chargers is that while they're plugged in and charging, they heat up and then can get water condensation inside of the charging device due to temperature changes inside the vehicle. So we all have been told that water and electric don't mix right? So now you have water and electric mixing, which can then cause components inside of the charger to be shorted and start drawing more current then they should. This then causes these components to heat up, burn and additionally catch the cheap plastic housings of the charger on fire. Then once the plastic housing catches fire of the charger, then this can spread to the plastic bezel surrounding the charging socket, then the next thing you know, your entire Jeep is on fire.
So something to take note of in both of those videos posted. Notice how both of them occurred during the night? Coincidence? Possibly....However.....How many of us have plugged our phone into the charger in our Jeep, drove home, gotten out and forgot our phone in the Jeep over night where it was plugged in and charging all night? Well, right there is a possibility for a fire situation which most of us don't even think about.
Chrysler is one of the few automotive companies that still makes vehicles where the power outlet stays on when you take the key out of the ignition. Personally, I like the convenience of that. However, try to buy a new Toyota where the power outlet stays on after you leave the vehicle. So Toyota does this for a reason, and it's because of the exact reason I outlined and because of the most likely conclusion everyone in this discussion is jumping to...."The vehicle caught on fire....something is wrong with the vehicle." So Toyota is concerned with their reputation. Afterall, they want to be known for making a high "quality" car and have spent lots of money doing just that. So when someone leaves a cheap Chinese made phone charger, plugged in the vehicle and charging all night in a moist environment and their Toyota suddenly catches on fire during the night, do you think most people would think their phone charger was the reason the vehicle caught on fire, or do you think they would blame the vehicle? Most would be scratching their heads and trying to figure out why their new Toyota caught on fire just like everyone is doing in this discussion. So Toyota eliminates that speculation scenario which could leave them black eyes for something that isn't even their fault....they don't leave the power outlets on when you turn off the ignition in your vehicle, so you cell phone and/or iPod charger can start a fire when you're not present. If you're driving and this happens, most people are smart enough to unplug the device when they see/smell smoke. If this happens when you're not there, then like they say, "Where there's smoke, there's fire."
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A likely candidate for starting fires is by leaving a Cell phone charger or iPod charger plugged into the always on outlet.
So what can happen with these cell phone chargers is that while they're plugged in and charging, they heat up and then can get water condensation inside of the charging device due to temperature changes inside the vehicle. So we all have been told that water and electric don't mix right? So now you have water and electric mixing, which can then cause components inside of the charger to be shorted and start drawing more current then they should. This then causes these components to heat up, burn and additionally catch the cheap plastic housings of the charger on fire. Then once the plastic housing catches fire of the charger, then this can spread to the plastic bezel surrounding the charging socket, then the next thing you know, your entire Jeep is on fire.
So something to take note of in both of those videos posted. Notice how both of them occurred during the night? Coincidence? Possibly....However.....How many of us have plugged our phone into the charger in our Jeep, drove home, gotten out and forgot our phone in the Jeep over night where it was plugged in and charging all night? Well, right there is a possibility for a fire situation which most of us don't even think about.
Chrysler is one of the few automotive companies that still makes vehicles where the power outlet stays on when you take the key out of the ignition. Personally, I like the convenience of that. However, try to buy a new Toyota where the power outlet stays on after you leave the vehicle. So Toyota does this for a reason, and it's because of the exact reason I outlined and because of the most likely conclusion everyone in this discussion is jumping to...."The vehicle caught on fire....something is wrong with the vehicle." So Toyota is concerned with their reputation. Afterall, they want to be known for making a high "quality" car and have spent lots of money doing just that. So when someone leaves a cheap Chinese made phone charger, plugged in the vehicle and charging all night in a moist environment and their Toyota suddenly catches on fire during the night, do you think most people would think their phone charger was the reason the vehicle caught on fire, or do you think they would blame the vehicle? Most would be scratching their heads and trying to figure out why their new Toyota caught on fire just like everyone is doing in this discussion. So Toyota eliminates that speculation scenario which could leave them black eyes for something that isn't even their fault....they don't leave the power outlets on when you turn off the ignition in your vehicle, so you cell phone and/or iPod charger can start a fire when you're not present. If you're driving and this happens, most people are smart enough to unplug the device when they see/smell smoke. If this happens when you're not there, then like they say, "Where there's smoke, there's fire."
So what can happen with these cell phone chargers is that while they're plugged in and charging, they heat up and then can get water condensation inside of the charging device due to temperature changes inside the vehicle. So we all have been told that water and electric don't mix right? So now you have water and electric mixing, which can then cause components inside of the charger to be shorted and start drawing more current then they should. This then causes these components to heat up, burn and additionally catch the cheap plastic housings of the charger on fire. Then once the plastic housing catches fire of the charger, then this can spread to the plastic bezel surrounding the charging socket, then the next thing you know, your entire Jeep is on fire.
So something to take note of in both of those videos posted. Notice how both of them occurred during the night? Coincidence? Possibly....However.....How many of us have plugged our phone into the charger in our Jeep, drove home, gotten out and forgot our phone in the Jeep over night where it was plugged in and charging all night? Well, right there is a possibility for a fire situation which most of us don't even think about.
Chrysler is one of the few automotive companies that still makes vehicles where the power outlet stays on when you take the key out of the ignition. Personally, I like the convenience of that. However, try to buy a new Toyota where the power outlet stays on after you leave the vehicle. So Toyota does this for a reason, and it's because of the exact reason I outlined and because of the most likely conclusion everyone in this discussion is jumping to...."The vehicle caught on fire....something is wrong with the vehicle." So Toyota is concerned with their reputation. Afterall, they want to be known for making a high "quality" car and have spent lots of money doing just that. So when someone leaves a cheap Chinese made phone charger, plugged in the vehicle and charging all night in a moist environment and their Toyota suddenly catches on fire during the night, do you think most people would think their phone charger was the reason the vehicle caught on fire, or do you think they would blame the vehicle? Most would be scratching their heads and trying to figure out why their new Toyota caught on fire just like everyone is doing in this discussion. So Toyota eliminates that speculation scenario which could leave them black eyes for something that isn't even their fault....they don't leave the power outlets on when you turn off the ignition in your vehicle, so you cell phone and/or iPod charger can start a fire when you're not present. If you're driving and this happens, most people are smart enough to unplug the device when they see/smell smoke. If this happens when you're not there, then like they say, "Where there's smoke, there's fire."
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From: BC
The power outlet in our 2010 JK doesn't power the iphone charger once the Jeep is turned off (base model JK with no options) The power disconnects, which I hate lol That second fire also started in the engine compartment, not the passenger compartment. The first video is horrible so I can't tell where it started.
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A likely candidate for starting fires is by leaving a Cell phone charger or iPod charger plugged into the always on outlet.
So what can happen with these cell phone chargers is that while they're plugged in and charging, they heat up and then can get water condensation inside of the charging device due to temperature changes inside the vehicle. So we all have been told that water and electric don't mix right? So now you have water and electric mixing, which can then cause components inside of the charger to be shorted and start drawing more current then they should. This then causes these components to heat up, burn and additionally catch the cheap plastic housings of the charger on fire. Then once the plastic housing catches fire of the charger, then this can spread to the plastic bezel surrounding the charging socket, then the next thing you know, your entire Jeep is on fire.
So something to take note of in both of those videos posted. Notice how both of them occurred during the night? Coincidence? Possibly....However.....How many of us have plugged our phone into the charger in our Jeep, drove home, gotten out and forgot our phone in the Jeep over night where it was plugged in and charging all night? Well, right there is a possibility for a fire situation which most of us don't even think about.
Chrysler is one of the few automotive companies that still makes vehicles where the power outlet stays on when you take the key out of the ignition. Personally, I like the convenience of that. However, try to buy a new Toyota where the power outlet stays on after you leave the vehicle. So Toyota does this for a reason, and it's because of the exact reason I outlined and because of the most likely conclusion everyone in this discussion is jumping to...."The vehicle caught on fire....something is wrong with the vehicle." So Toyota is concerned with their reputation. Afterall, they want to be known for making a high "quality" car and have spent lots of money doing just that. So when someone leaves a cheap Chinese made phone charger, plugged in the vehicle and charging all night in a moist environment and their Toyota suddenly catches on fire during the night, do you think most people would think their phone charger was the reason the vehicle caught on fire, or do you think they would blame the vehicle? Most would be scratching their heads and trying to figure out why their new Toyota caught on fire just like everyone is doing in this discussion. So Toyota eliminates that speculation scenario which could leave them black eyes for something that isn't even their fault....they don't leave the power outlets on when you turn off the ignition in your vehicle, so you cell phone and/or iPod charger can start a fire when you're not present. If you're driving and this happens, most people are smart enough to unplug the device when they see/smell smoke. If this happens when you're not there, then like they say, "Where there's smoke, there's fire."
So what can happen with these cell phone chargers is that while they're plugged in and charging, they heat up and then can get water condensation inside of the charging device due to temperature changes inside the vehicle. So we all have been told that water and electric don't mix right? So now you have water and electric mixing, which can then cause components inside of the charger to be shorted and start drawing more current then they should. This then causes these components to heat up, burn and additionally catch the cheap plastic housings of the charger on fire. Then once the plastic housing catches fire of the charger, then this can spread to the plastic bezel surrounding the charging socket, then the next thing you know, your entire Jeep is on fire.
So something to take note of in both of those videos posted. Notice how both of them occurred during the night? Coincidence? Possibly....However.....How many of us have plugged our phone into the charger in our Jeep, drove home, gotten out and forgot our phone in the Jeep over night where it was plugged in and charging all night? Well, right there is a possibility for a fire situation which most of us don't even think about.
Chrysler is one of the few automotive companies that still makes vehicles where the power outlet stays on when you take the key out of the ignition. Personally, I like the convenience of that. However, try to buy a new Toyota where the power outlet stays on after you leave the vehicle. So Toyota does this for a reason, and it's because of the exact reason I outlined and because of the most likely conclusion everyone in this discussion is jumping to...."The vehicle caught on fire....something is wrong with the vehicle." So Toyota is concerned with their reputation. Afterall, they want to be known for making a high "quality" car and have spent lots of money doing just that. So when someone leaves a cheap Chinese made phone charger, plugged in the vehicle and charging all night in a moist environment and their Toyota suddenly catches on fire during the night, do you think most people would think their phone charger was the reason the vehicle caught on fire, or do you think they would blame the vehicle? Most would be scratching their heads and trying to figure out why their new Toyota caught on fire just like everyone is doing in this discussion. So Toyota eliminates that speculation scenario which could leave them black eyes for something that isn't even their fault....they don't leave the power outlets on when you turn off the ignition in your vehicle, so you cell phone and/or iPod charger can start a fire when you're not present. If you're driving and this happens, most people are smart enough to unplug the device when they see/smell smoke. If this happens when you're not there, then like they say, "Where there's smoke, there's fire."
I agree with the previous sentiment though...most vehicle fires I've seen are due to lack of maintenance/leaking fluids and originate in the engine compartment.