Originally Posted by scotty6336

Wow man take it easy..I think what the OP was getting at is you see a lot of complaining on this forum about quality and such. But the JK is still a fairly new model and people expect perfection (or close to it) reliability wise from a new vehicle. I agree with you on the other vehicle on the trails aspect. I've got some jacked up 4 runners and old disco's around me that are freikin badass.

And lets leave the G wagon alone. With the exception of very few, and the militarized ones in other countries, theres a reason its called the "G WAGON" ...JK man I don't want you starting in on me now

Originally Posted by Ryanc

It called G wagon, because it stands for Gelandewagen.

Originally Posted by scotty6336

Yes. I'm aware.

Originally Posted by Ryanc

Ok, then what are you referring to by your comment about G wagon? BTW, Im just busting ChrylserChris's balls.

Originally Posted by Ryanc

Ok, then what are you referring to by your comment about G wagon? BTW, Im just busting ChrylserChris's balls.

Originally Posted by ChryslerChris

Whole lotta complaining going on here on these boards about the JK sucking, not being a good enough offroader, Chrysler sucking, Chrysler quality sucking, Chrysler not knowing what the Jeep customer wants

Yeah......some people just have to complain. There is always something they will find not to be happy about.

Originally Posted by ChryslerChris

My balls are all busted from the Saharas = Mall Crawler days. Still inflating them up as we speak.

Originally Posted by ChryslerChris

Whole lotta complaining going on here on these boards about the JK sucking, not being a good enough offroader, Chrysler sucking, Chrysler quality sucking, Chrysler not knowing what the Jeep customer wants

So I figured, for North America at least, let's round up what off-roading vehicles are currently being manufactured by Chrysler, followed by other OEM's...

Chrysler - the Jeep JK, Gran Cherokee, Liberty, trail-rated Compass, and on the Dodge side, the new 2012 Ram Power Wagon (repleat with Warn winch, offroad tires and electronic sway bar discos)

Toyota - FJ cruiser, Tacoma TRD package

Nissan - Xterra

GM - used to be Hummer, but now, nothing.

Ford - zippo

Honda - nada

Hyundai/Kai - LOL. nope.

Porcshe - no, Cayenne doesn't count

Audi - no

VW - again no

Mercedes - some will agrue the G-wagon but I say no

I might have missed a few, and feel free to complete my list, but my point is before you bite the hand that feeds you and bitch up a storm about how lousy Chrysler is about supporting or building our Jeeps, bear in mind they have an entire Brand dedicated to off-roading, an actual evaulation to class their vehicles "trail rated", an expensive but good aftermarket department in Mopar that offers everything from bumpers to lift kits, and engineers who actually drive the Jeeps they design.