I'd buy used jeeps, that's about it.

 

Spank, how do you know I don't?

Gort, Ford's loan was to implement government mandated changes to their vehicle production mix to comply with EPA and DOE mandates. Not to expand or increase sale of vehicles people actually want to buy that would increase company bottom line. And.... it was a loan, not a bailout. GM auto company still owes $27 Billion and Ally Bank (formerly GMAC) owes $14.7 Billion.

Raise your children to be hard workers because most of their labor for generations to come will be to pay off the debts we have accumulated. (Thus global "redistribution of wealth".)

 

Hmmm probably only way we'd get a diesel in the wrangler.

 

Well since some real Jeeps are assembled in Egypt then it would be easy to move assembly to Italy. The upside is that Jeeps made overseas are platforms from the USA. So they would be still creating American jobs.

 

I guess technically your JK was built by Damlier and mine was built by Fiat. Its been a while since Chrysler owned Chrysler.

Not sure how an Italian made Jeep would translate, but a US built Honda is still a Honda and a US built Mercedes is still a Mercedes, so maybe an Italian built Jeep could still be a Jeep.

 

They're making CJ's in Egypt???

 

Well, like I said -- it depends on how thin you want to split that hair. Ford borrowed taxpayer money. It doesn't matter why to me. What matters to me is that they did borrow taxpayer money and then tried to tell everyone that they didn't as a way to boost their sales by playing on the unpopularity of big-corporation government dependence which they were all too willing to get involved with themselves.

Likewise, the money wasted on GM was also a "loan". Don't you recall all the strutting and prancing recently when GM was trying to make us believe that they repaid all the money to the Feds (instead of telling us that they borrowed money to pay back the bailout loan)?

I've got no problem with Ford overall. I think Ford's trucks are great, and I'll definitely buy another F-150 at some point in the future. The problem that I have isn't with Ford in particular, it's with big companies that pay little to no taxes but turn around and borrow taxpayer money (probably at a loss to the government) when the little guys that actually provide that tax money can't get the same loans.

IMO, the government shouldn't lend money -- period. Maybe then they'll stop stealing so much of mine and the rest of the 50% that actually pay taxes.

Just for full disclosure, I'm the really, really disgruntled owner of a boatload of "old GM" stock, which is, of course, worthless. I wouldn't have a problem with this if it were simply the foibles of the market that made it worthless, but it was the specific acts of the government, GM, courts, and unions that both figuratively and literally STOLE my money from me to enrich the unions, government, and others associated with GM. So yeah, I'm a bit sensitive to any company that gets in bed with the government and tries to deny it.

Government, at all levels, mandates that I do things or purchase things and is wholly unwilling to loan ME money to cover the expense of complying with their mandate. So no, I've got no sympathy for Ford in this case and to me, they're just as bad as GM.

Just my 2 cents.

 

First of all, there are a lot of "could's" in that article.

Second, It says it does not know which vehicles would be built overseas, there was no mention of a JK.

Third, it also says that the US factories are at "full Capacity".

So, what if they decide to move production of the Patriot to Italy while keeping JK's in The US and increase production of JK's both here and abroad. Is this a bad thing?

 

If all US factories are at full capacity, which I highly doubt, then why wouldn't they build another factory here to handle the load. Why, because everyone wants a chunk of America. It's a shame that the unemployment rate and economy are where there are, yet the money that could be feeding many Americans who need it is going elsewhere. As far as Fiat, look at what they have built in the past. Cheap, crappy cars...

 

Won't buy any non-American car or bike.