Interesting article: Chrysler become Jeep Corp?
12-21-2008, 05:08 PM
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And yes I agree, an engine option would be great. Even just a 4.7 V8 would be nice.
12-21-2008, 05:42 PM
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Liberty and Nitro
The new Liberty have a handful of interesting specs, like descent control, hill start assist, very usable all-wheel drive - it's truly a Jeep, I think.What I cannot understand is why Chrysler do not give more options for the JK, like Hemi engine, and maybe a new interior and panel - as well as bigger rims and suspension options. Do not need so much, because the aftermarket have plentiful - just one or two options.
12-21-2008, 07:22 PM
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I think the Liberty deserves to wear the Jeep badge (it's easily the second most capable Jeep currently in production), but the Wrangler is in an entirely different league than the Liberty. The Liberty has IFS, no frame, an RTI score comparable to a Subaru Outback, not enough ground clearance, no rocker protection, a very low hanging air dam and front suspension skid plate, less than stellar approach and departure angles, a weak electonically controlled transfer case, a vulnerable spare tire, bloated bumpers made of crappy plastic, intrusive wheel well liners, Good-for-a-year tires, and underwhelming engine performance because some idiot thought it would be a good idea to add electronic throttle control.
How's that for a rant?
12-21-2008, 07:31 PM
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If you buy a Jeep to take the kids to soccer then that's your choice, as long as the Wrangler, Scrambler, Willy, Rubicon, X, Sahara, and various other models that are the lineage of todays "JEEPER" stay the same, what's the difference.
12-21-2008, 08:42 PM
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12-22-2008, 02:12 AM
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2009 Wranglers also have hill start assist. No descent control though.
I think the Liberty deserves to wear the Jeep badge (it's easily the second most capable Jeep currently in production), but the Wrangler is in an entirely different league than the Liberty. The Liberty has IFS, no frame, an RTI score comparable to a Subaru Outback, not enough ground clearance, no rocker protection, a very low hanging air dam and front suspension skid plate, less than stellar approach and departure angles, a weak electonically controlled transfer case, a vulnerable spare tire, bloated bumpers made of crappy plastic, intrusive wheel well liners, Good-for-a-year tires, and underwhelming engine performance because some idiot thought it would be a good idea to add electronic throttle control.
How's that for a rant?
I think the Liberty deserves to wear the Jeep badge (it's easily the second most capable Jeep currently in production), but the Wrangler is in an entirely different league than the Liberty. The Liberty has IFS, no frame, an RTI score comparable to a Subaru Outback, not enough ground clearance, no rocker protection, a very low hanging air dam and front suspension skid plate, less than stellar approach and departure angles, a weak electonically controlled transfer case, a vulnerable spare tire, bloated bumpers made of crappy plastic, intrusive wheel well liners, Good-for-a-year tires, and underwhelming engine performance because some idiot thought it would be a good idea to add electronic throttle control.
How's that for a rant?
What I dream about the Wrangler is, not to mention a Hemi engine, a new interior and dashboard, maybe a modern, modular sports oriented instruments cluster - along some other changes, I think this can bring a lot of new air to the good Wrangler.
12-23-2008, 08:49 AM
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This is interesting coming from USN&W, which a year ago was a weekly news magazine and had been for years. Then, last spring they went to 26 "double" issues a year (page count has actually decreased) Now, they have announced they will be published monthly. Whats next -- online content only -- that is where the ad dollars are going. By the way, a subscription still costs the same as when the rag was published weekly.
Maybe Chrysler could emulate the publishing industry's innovative business plan by delivering less content for more money. Are you ready for a virtual Jeep?
-meljr
PS - By the way, has anyone looked at Autoweek lately? It's still being published weekly, but the page count is down to around 50 pages or so and the content sucks since they got rid of Satch Carlson.
Maybe Chrysler could emulate the publishing industry's innovative business plan by delivering less content for more money. Are you ready for a virtual Jeep?
-meljr
PS - By the way, has anyone looked at Autoweek lately? It's still being published weekly, but the page count is down to around 50 pages or so and the content sucks since they got rid of Satch Carlson.
As long as the Wrangler stands, I don't really care about the rest of the vehicles. Although I wish their employees the best.