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Is the Jeep still a Jeep - or something else?

Old Oct 4, 2019 | 02:20 PM
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Angry Is the Jeep still a Jeep - or something else?

Jeep. A World War 2 icon. Rough and tough, clean cut, the perfect utilitarian, an All-American. It survived Willys-Overland, Kaiser-Frazer, AMC, Renault, Chrysler, Daimler-Chrysler, Cerberus, and meanwhile has stood its ground with Fiat-Chrysler. You can beat it, change it, rebuild it, run it through Hell, even pity it for being just plain raw with no emotions, but it kept its strength and independence and remained true as the backbone of better generations, from Normandy through the Berlin Wall and beyond. Then came the JL with a Justin Bieber.

I’ve been struggling to accept it, and Lord knows I have tried. It’s like waving at the daughter’s new boyfriend, knowing damn well it’s up to no-good with its loose WELDS like baggy pants. Then it can’t talk right with its sneaky AUTO-OFF engine self. On top of that it wants to impersonate some stupid Jersey Shore episode with its ducktail haircut of a roof SPOILER, not to mention an ITALIAN diesel to be offered soon (Yes, I’m Italian, but Vito – not Fredo). Sure, it’s young and immature and wants to flaunt its Hyundai body lines while texting MPG, but really? She couldn’t pick a straight-panel bodied JK?!

I know, I can’t tell the daughter anything, and she’ll have to figure out the boyfriend’s Recall thing on her own. As if those meth SCREENS on the nostril side of the JLs weren’t a clue, not to mention those trash-stamps of tail lights. Yeah, talk smack about eco “efficiency” and all that, but if it can’t STEER its way through life without Mamma’s clueless WARRANTY then how the Fahrvergnuegen is it even going to show up for work on time if it can’t even START for the day?

And what is wrong with its Mamma anyway, she keeps trying to avoid her JL’s problems by sheltering it in her “service” basement for 3 months. The JL needed a spanking as a prototype, but instead it’s engineer daddies smothered it with Euro gummi-bears and UNicorns. Today I learned that the JL can’t even hold a job turning its cruise control off, now that’s an adolescent way out of control. So, is the Jeep really a Jeep anymore, or just a Safe Place for Prius feelings? Is it now a Wrangler Undecided? And what about Maximus Decimus Meridius, aka the GLADIATOR, could it still seek revenge against the Jeep COMMANDER? WTF kind of ending would that be, the RENEGADE becoming the Emperor?!

Yes, I’m on a rant, just venting. I want old-school back. Dear Lord, give me Liberty or…wait, not that disgusting Liberty either. Just give me a CJ, TJ, JK or even a YJ, or give me death.
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Old Oct 4, 2019 | 05:23 PM
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Real Jeeps have 2 door!
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Old Oct 4, 2019 | 07:29 PM
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I really hate to be the guy talking about how the new Jeep isn't a Jeep, so I will never say that, but I will say, after driving my mother-in-law's JL numerous times, they have taken many things I don't like about my JK and expanded on them. I knew this would be the case in accordance with the market they are catering to, but idk.

There are many things that I like about it.

I have to say, there are quite a few things with the exterior that I like, and some others that I didn't care for, that are growing on me, but it doesn't really matter. I'll be keeping my JK forever. I'll drive it till the wheels fall off, and then I'll just upgrade to one-tons.

I'm also the oddball all that really likes a YJ, cause that's what Jeeps were when I was a kid.

I don't hate on anybody's Jeep. Old or new. If they are driving it, it's awesome. I wave to everybody. Sometimes they wave back. A Jeeps a Jeep.

Happy Jeeping.
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Old Oct 6, 2019 | 07:25 AM
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Relax, it was meant to be taken in jest and not too seriously, but I will admit that the contents reflect the concerns of what I've been hearing from every single person I've talked to. Would I buy one? Of course. Would I exchange my JK for one? Never. Bottom line is let's just hope they cure a lot of the ongoing issues with the JL... and maybe next time don't drastically alter the Jeep's character just for the sake of $$$ and European tastes.
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Old Oct 7, 2019 | 02:17 PM
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The operative is MARKET DRIVEN CHANGE... due to Gov't regs - all of them - look at the competition on the way and the high tech already on the mkt.. FCA is building for the market.. BTW look at all the other brands # of recalls, the JL is not doing Bad vs...
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Old Oct 9, 2019 | 01:44 PM
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My last word on this topic and I'll yield to comments. Just remember... Media, Sports, Textiles, electronics, etc, and, Yes, even the automobile industry, have already caved. Sometimes a picture can tell a 1000 words.....

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Old Jul 19, 2021 | 08:42 AM
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Come on now, don't be like that, some would say real Jeeps only come with a manual transmission.
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Old Jul 19, 2021 | 08:43 AM
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Like they did when they went to the JK ?
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