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Old Jul 12, 2009 | 07:11 AM
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Originally Posted by JUSTIN01
Actually they can....or at least in Texas they can. Any business has the right to refuse business to anyone, and the right to do so without providing a reason. It's more legitimate if they at least have a reason though I agree.
That wouldn't stand up in court for a minute. There are quite a few laws against discrimination. Texas currently can't trump federal law. Give it a few years....
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Old Jul 12, 2009 | 07:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Dr.McNinja
That wouldn't stand up in court for a minute. There are quite a few laws against discrimination. Texas currently can't trump federal law. Give it a few years....
It actually the same here in Cali, one of the most liberal states. Any privatley owned buisness can refuse service to anyone for any reason. Now that being stated if it is obviously for a reason of race, religion, sex, etc. The refused patron could easily sue.
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Old Jul 12, 2009 | 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Ridin' Dirty
I got kicked to the curb last winter cuz I was washing deer blood out of the back of my pickup bed. They had a sign that said "no 4wd mud washing" but it didn't say anything about blood.....
That's awesome.

"That ain't mud... that's blood!"
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Old Jul 12, 2009 | 08:49 AM
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I never dump in a car wash, their paper towels are too expensive
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Old Jul 12, 2009 | 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Dr.McNinja
That wouldn't stand up in court for a minute. There are quite a few laws against discrimination. Texas currently can't trump federal law. Give it a few years....
It shouldn't I agree.....but it currently does. And it's not classified as discrimination. It has it's own title: Refusal of Service. Sadly, it needs no justification. Courts here seem to sway that direction at least. It's up to the victim to prove it was discrimination.....and it often falls into a "he said, she said" battle that ends up no where.
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Old Jul 12, 2009 | 01:22 PM
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Wow, a lot of misunderstanding of the Federal Civil Rights Act and the Americans with Disabilities Act.

These Federal acts provide protection against refusal of service that's based on race, color, religion, national origin, or disability. Some states have enacted laws that add additional classifications but in general refusal of service can be made if there's a specific identifiable business interest in doing so. (Also don't confuse refusal of service with the Equal Employment laws related to hiring)

A car wash, many of which recycle their water to some degree, has a very clear interest in not having buckets worth of mud washed into their systems. You'd probably have a pretty tough time getting anywhere suing a car wash owner who refused to let you wash a mud covered Jeep.

More info here: The Right to Refuse Service
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Old Jul 12, 2009 | 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by gpb
Wow, a lot of misunderstanding of the Federal Civil Rights Act and the Americans with Disabilities Act.
Not really. I never said they can't do it for you dumping mud. I just said they can't do it for any reason.
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Old Jul 12, 2009 | 04:31 PM
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place I use has the same no mud signs but then another sign that says muddy or heavily soiled vehicles use outside bay. so I use the last bay which is not inclosed and apparently runs to a serperate drain. try finding a local place with an outside bay for this sorta thing.
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Old Jul 12, 2009 | 10:14 PM
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wash your mud off and put it in a bucket and dump it on the manager's car... Leave two bucks and a note telling him he can't take it to any american car wash or you will call the cops...
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Old Jul 12, 2009 | 10:28 PM
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I've had a run in or two with those types of places...it's really not smart on their part because we the "offroad community" () spend a FORTUNE in car wash fee's...we're actually REALLY good business ...if they were to get a cop after you the cop (if he had any since) would have chuckled and told you the owner has the right to refuse your business but other than that there aren't any laws broken. We finally bought a house so I enjoy having my own pressure washer
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