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Will putting a "hybrid" sticker on keep the greenies off your back?
So I've seen many a post about hate at the gas stations from the greenies... (not saying I don't love the planet myself... I just...ah heck I have no excuses... I just like the JK...and it does guzzle more gas than the average "car"). I recall a post about someone who even got hate from a Hybrid Suburban...
It seems that Hybrid is that magic word that gets people off your back about gas emissions and such.... Just a thought, but it would be mildly funny to put a Hybrid sticker on the Jeep...not really an outright mis-statement...it is a hybrid on-off road vehicle.... |
Piss on the greenie libtard bastards. Just hate um back. It works for me.
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I like for them to know that I appreciate all their efforts to save fuel, so I put this on mine.......
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...h_creek012.jpg |
That's funny. That bumper sticker could only possibly lead to finding more soft drinks emptied inside my Jeep--especially around Boulder.
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I posted this a while ago -- I have this sticker on my Jeep -- the environmentalist wackos don't know a damn thing anyway -- They figure your rig is some new hybrid Earth saving leftist-mobile when they see this -- While it won't save the Earth, it might just save your Jeep from a good "keying" by a socialist/commie! Well worth the $6.95 (for 2 inc. shipping!) |
Print this out and hand it to any greenies that give you shit about your Jeep:
http://clubs.ccsu.edu/Recorder/edito...asp?NewsID=188 Hey, I love the environment too, but the fact is, motor vehicles are responsible for less than 1 percent of the carbon emissions in the world. The rest comes from heavy industry which, by the way, includes the manufacture and transport of the ethanol that they're diluting our gasoline with now. That stuff is the biggest snow job ever pulled against our government by the environmentalist nazis. Don't even get me started. |
I love the Glenn Beck sticker...I'll have to order one now!
Thanks http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a1...a/ecolarge.jpg Additional Product Information: Have you ever driven by a hippie, environmental protest and had your beautiful gas guzzling SUV keyed? Now you can protect your car by making it appear environmentally friendly with the Glenn Beck Hydro-Carbon Powered Eco-Vehicle bumper sticker. Look like a friend of the Earth while killing it at the same time! Hydro Carbon just means oil, but with our clever recycle-shape inspired design, environmentalists and global warming zombies alike will take one look and think you're on their side. Only we'll know the truth behind it…you evil conservative hate monger! And with this sticker 2-pack you get one for your car, and one to share with a friend. |
Originally Posted by undertow119
(Post 508071)
Print this out and hand it to any greenies that give you shit about your Jeep:
http://clubs.ccsu.edu/Recorder/edito...asp?NewsID=188 Hey, I love the environment too, but the fact is, motor vehicles are responsible for less than 1 percent of the carbon emissions in the world. The rest comes from heavy industry which, by the way, includes the manufacture and transport of the ethanol that they're diluting our gasoline with now. That stuff is the biggest snow job ever pulled against our government by the environmentalist nazis. Don't even get me started. |
That's funny right there, I don't care who you are!
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I had some snot nosed, self righteous kid come up to me while I was filling up and say, "Thats not a hybrid, is it?" Being a natural born smart ass, I quickly answered, "Yes, it is a hybrid. It runs on gas and diesel." Jr looked a little confused, then walked away.
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Just tell them you can park on their hood if you want to. :rotflmao2:
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Ask the damned pinheads if their vehicle will still be on the road 40 years from now..... very seldom do you see a CJ, YJ, TJ scrapped. Only the total loss wrecks or burn jobs get scrapped. The JK will be no different. How much energy does it take to manufacture a complete jeep from scratch- much more than rebuilding. How much energy will it take to manufacture 5 light duty hybrids to last that same 40 years? Don't forget the battery disposal and that seperate problem on the environment.
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sure
More than likely... since they only look at MPG, and nothing else like capacity, capabilities, cost to own / repair... then sure...
the faster we burn off the oil, the faster we have to switch to something else :) |
Great article!
Originally Posted by undertow119
(Post 508071)
Print this out and hand it to any greenies that give you shit about your Jeep:
http://clubs.ccsu.edu/Recorder/edito...asp?NewsID=188 Hey, I love the environment too, but the fact is, motor vehicles are responsible for less than 1 percent of the carbon emissions in the world. The rest comes from heavy industry which, by the way, includes the manufacture and transport of the ethanol that they're diluting our gasoline with now. That stuff is the biggest snow job ever pulled against our government by the environmentalist nazis. Don't even get me started. |
The folks that are harassing you have no idea what they are talking about. Real "greenies" know the truth about hybrids. I posted this article in another thread:
EDIT: Dangit, the link doesn't work anymore.... I'll have to find it again, but it basically explains how the Wrangler is one of the "greenest" vehicles you can buy. Here's an abbreviated version-- it sucks because the original article was so good... http://www.independent.co.uk/life-st...le-423233.html The whole thread is here: https://www.jk-forum.com/forums/jk-talk-26/environmental-concerns-32866/ |
If they had any idea of the 'carbon footprint' they leave when transporting those humongous batteries and components in the hybrid cars to the U.S. not to mention their production alone, then they would think again. You can drive your jeep for years and rest assured your doing less damage environmentally than they are.
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i think my license plate should be:
"13MPG" |
A resource means that it is intended for us to USE it.
One good volcanic eruption produces more co/green house gas then the past 100 years of motor vehicle usage. Ethanol is good for our farmers and will eventually ruin the middle east economy. But it is a very long term plan. Brazil runs almost all ethanol vehicles with no problems. <<< I despise ETHANOL as a fuel additive though. ROFL.... this thread has to many hillarious posts to compete with... and the carbon-bio fuel sticker thingy...lol.. is AWESOME. I think I should sell them from my gas stations... |
My neighbor stopped his eco-nazi global warming rants when my gas guzzling Jeep pulled his electric-gerbal powered pansy Prius out of a flashflooded rain swell one night at 2 am. In his Ph.d mind, he thought he could safely drive through a flooded intersection, 30 inches deep and actually make it, because a RAV 4 made it through. I think it cost him about 7000 dollars to replace the electrical components in the Prius. All that aside, he is a nice guy and his hot wife winks at me in my Jeep.
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If oil is from dead dinosaurs, then it IS a Bio-fuel, if coal is from dead plants it too is a Bio-fuel. I told a greenie that once and he looked at me like a dog hearing a sharp sound.
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Originally Posted by Percheron
(Post 508975)
If oil is from dead dinosaurs, then it IS a Bio-fuel, if coal is from dead plants it too is a Bio-fuel. I told a greenie that once and he looked at me like a dog hearing a sharp sound.
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Originally Posted by pagoda
(Post 508908)
.....and his hot wife winks at me in my Jeep.
I hate the prius and there are soooooo many around here. toyota must be laughing all the way to the bank |
People, I have a Jeep JK (second jeep) and a Prius. Some of the stuff that you read (and has been repeated on this thread) is pure BS. Kinda like talking to a democrat or republican....the story twist depends on who you are talking to. The basic fact is that the Prius is a great car that is not going to cost tons of money to replace the batteries and is not going to trash the earth with its battery waste or vehicle production methods. If more of use had them perhaps the Arabs and US oil cartel would not be sticking it to us at $4.00 gallon. Then we could fill up our jeeps for $25.00 instead of $60.00. The problem is that the tree huggers take it too far and the anti-tree huggers take it too far the other way. The Prius is a great car for what is is supposed to do. I have driven 600 miles on one tank of gas (10 gallons!!!). Your not going to go off road, pull your boat or any of the other things it was not intended to do. The really sad thing is that the Prius is in its third generation and is still the most advanced car in the world and yet our own auto makers have not come close to matching it. It has not been that long that the rest of the world would buy american because it was built to last forever. Now everything is made in China and most of our economy is based on the service industry. ....ahh....did I get off track? : )
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Originally Posted by BaltChief
(Post 507974)
I like for them to know that I appreciate all their efforts to save fuel, so I put this on mine.......
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...h_creek012.jpg |
Originally Posted by km5er
(Post 509251)
People, I have a Jeep JK (second jeep) and a Prius. Some of the stuff that you read (and has been repeated on this thread) is pure BS. Kinda like talking to a democrat or republican....the story twist depends on who you are talking to. The basic fact is that the Prius is a great car that is not going to cost tons of money to replace the batteries and is not going to trash the earth with its battery waste or vehicle production methods. If more of use had them perhaps the Arabs and US oil cartel would not be sticking it to us at $4.00 gallon. Then we could fill up our jeeps for $25.00 instead of $60.00. The problem is that the tree huggers take it too far and the anti-tree huggers take it too far the other way. The Prius is a great car for what is is supposed to do. I have driven 600 miles on one tank of gas (10 gallons!!!). Your not going to go off road, pull your boat or any of the other things it was not intended to do. The really sad thing is that the Prius is in its third generation and is still the most advanced car in the world and yet our own auto makers have not come close to matching it. It has not been that long that the rest of the world would buy american because it was built to last forever. Now everything is made in China and most of our economy is based on the service industry. ....ahh....did I get off track? : )
Hidden cost of driving a Prius Totaling all the energy expended, from design to junkyard, a Hummer may be a better bargain. By James L. Martin When it comes to protecting the environment, senior citizens should concentrate more on the total energy consumed in building and operating a car than its fuel efficiency - no matter how impressive the statistics appear on the window sticker at the showroom. A prime example is Toyota's Prius, a compact hybrid that's beloved by ardent environmentalists and that fetches premium prices because it gets nearly 50 miles-pergallon in combined highway/city driving. Yet, new data have emerged that show the Prius may not be quite as eco-friendly as first assumed - if you pencil in the environmental negatives of producing it in the first place. Like most hybrids, the Prius relies on two engines - one, a conventional 76-horsepower gasoline power plant, and a second, battery-powered, that kicks in 67 more horses. Most of the gas is consumed as the car goes from 0 to 30, according to alarmed Canadian environmentalists, who say Toyota's touting of the car's green appeal leaves out a few pertinent and disturbing facts. The nickel for the battery, for instance, is mined in Sudbury, Ontario, and smelted at nearby Nickel Centre, just north of the province's massive Georgian Bay. Toyota buys about 1,000 tons of nickel from the facility each year, ships the nickel to Wales for refining, then to China, where it's manufactured into nickel foam, and then onto Toyota's battery plant in Japan. That alone creates a globe-trotting trail of carbon emissions that ought to seriously concern everyone involved in the fight against global warming. All told, the start-tofinish journey travels more than 10,000 miles - mostly by container ship, but also by diesel locomotive. But it's not just the clouds of greenhouse gases generated by all that smelting, refining, manufacturing and transporting that worries green activists. The 1,250-foot-tall smokestack that spews huge puffs of sulphur dioxide at the Sudbury mine and smelter operation has left a large swath of the surrounding area looking like a surrealistic scene from the depths of hell. On the perimeter of the area, skeletons of trees and bushes stand like ghostly sentinels guarding a sprawling wasteland. Astronauts in training for NASA actually have practiced driving moon buggies on the suburban Sudbury tract because it's considered a duplicate of the Moon's landscape. "The acid rain around Sudbury was so bad it destroyed all the plants, and the soil slid down off the hillside," David Martin, Greenpeace's energy coordinator in Canada, told the London Daily Mail. "The solution they came up with was the Superstack. The idea was to dilute pollution, but all it did was spread the fallout across northern Ontario," Martin told the British newspaper, adding that Sudbury remains "a major environmental and health problem. The environmental cost of producing that car battery is pretty high." A "Dust to Dust" study by CNW Marketing Research of Bandon, Ore., shows the overall eco-costs of automotive hybrids may be even higher. Released last December, the study tabulated all data on the energy necessary to plan, build, sell, drive and dispose of a vehicle from drawing board to junkyard, including such items as plant-to-dealer fuel costs, distances driven, electricity usage per pound of material in each vehicle, and hundreds of other variables. To put the data into understandable terms for consumers, CNW translated it into a "dollars per lifetime mile" figure, or the energy cost per mile driven. When looked at from that perspective, the Prius and other hybrids quickly morphed from fuel-sippers into energy-guzzlers. The Prius registered an energy-cost average of $3.25 per mile driven over its expected life span of 100,000 miles. Ironically, a Hummer, the brooding giant that has become the bête noir of the green movement, did much better, with an energy-cost average of $1.95 over its expected life span of 300,000 miles. And its crash protection makes it far safer than the tiny Prius. Such information should be of major concern to senior citizens - especially those on a fixed budget. If seniors need a small gas-sipping car for city travel, however, the undisputed champion is Toyota's own gasoline-powered subcompact, the Scion xB, whose energy cost averaged a negligible 48 cents for each mile traveled over its lifetime. Fully armed with all the facts, seniors may want to zip down to their nearest Toyota dealer and trade in their Priuses for Scion xBs. That would be the equivalent of reducing their energy footprint from a size 24D to about a size 5A. In the case of global warming, one small step for man may turn out to be a giant leap for mankind. |
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Originally Posted by putnam dan
(Post 509270)
OK so how much does it cost to replace the batteries and what are you going to do with them when you scrap the car?
The batteries take about as much room as the batteries that will be used in the normal life of a normal vehicle. These are small units that look like a bunch of D cell batteries. They are not big industrial batteries such that those from one car will fill a landfill. These batteries will be disposed of the same as all the other batteries in use today.....the batteries from toys far exceed the waste produced by these cars. Mine is a 2006 with 50,000 miles. When it dies....it gets its own burial plot and headstone. |
Originally Posted by gjeepguy
(Post 509349)
Hidden cost of driving a Prius
Totaling all the energy expended, from design to junkyard, a Hummer may be a better bargain. By James L. Martin When it comes to protecting the environment, senior citizens should concentrate more on the total energy consumed in building and operating a car than its fuel efficiency - no matter how impressive the statistics appear on the window sticker at the showroom. A prime example is Toyota's Prius, a compact hybrid that's beloved by ardent environmentalists and that fetches premium prices because it gets nearly 50 miles-pergallon in combined highway/city driving. Yet, new data have emerged that show the Prius may not be quite as eco-friendly as first assumed - if you pencil in the environmental negatives of producing it in the first place. Like most hybrids, the Prius relies on two engines - one, a conventional 76-horsepower gasoline power plant, and a second, battery-powered, that kicks in 67 more horses. Most of the gas is consumed as the car goes from 0 to 30, according to alarmed Canadian environmentalists, who say Toyota's touting of the car's green appeal leaves out a few pertinent and disturbing facts. The nickel for the battery, for instance, is mined in Sudbury, Ontario, and smelted at nearby Nickel Centre, just north of the province's massive Georgian Bay. Toyota buys about 1,000 tons of nickel from the facility each year, ships the nickel to Wales for refining, then to China, where it's manufactured into nickel foam, and then onto Toyota's battery plant in Japan. That alone creates a globe-trotting trail of carbon emissions that ought to seriously concern everyone involved in the fight against global warming. All told, the start-tofinish journey travels more than 10,000 miles - mostly by container ship, but also by diesel locomotive. But it's not just the clouds of greenhouse gases generated by all that smelting, refining, manufacturing and transporting that worries green activists. The 1,250-foot-tall smokestack that spews huge puffs of sulphur dioxide at the Sudbury mine and smelter operation has left a large swath of the surrounding area looking like a surrealistic scene from the depths of hell. On the perimeter of the area, skeletons of trees and bushes stand like ghostly sentinels guarding a sprawling wasteland. Astronauts in training for NASA actually have practiced driving moon buggies on the suburban Sudbury tract because it's considered a duplicate of the Moon's landscape. "The acid rain around Sudbury was so bad it destroyed all the plants, and the soil slid down off the hillside," David Martin, Greenpeace's energy coordinator in Canada, told the London Daily Mail. "The solution they came up with was the Superstack. The idea was to dilute pollution, but all it did was spread the fallout across northern Ontario," Martin told the British newspaper, adding that Sudbury remains "a major environmental and health problem. The environmental cost of producing that car battery is pretty high." A "Dust to Dust" study by CNW Marketing Research of Bandon, Ore., shows the overall eco-costs of automotive hybrids may be even higher. Released last December, the study tabulated all data on the energy necessary to plan, build, sell, drive and dispose of a vehicle from drawing board to junkyard, including such items as plant-to-dealer fuel costs, distances driven, electricity usage per pound of material in each vehicle, and hundreds of other variables. To put the data into understandable terms for consumers, CNW translated it into a "dollars per lifetime mile" figure, or the energy cost per mile driven. When looked at from that perspective, the Prius and other hybrids quickly morphed from fuel-sippers into energy-guzzlers. The Prius registered an energy-cost average of $3.25 per mile driven over its expected life span of 100,000 miles. Ironically, a Hummer, the brooding giant that has become the bête noir of the green movement, did much better, with an energy-cost average of $1.95 over its expected life span of 300,000 miles. And its crash protection makes it far safer than the tiny Prius. Such information should be of major concern to senior citizens - especially those on a fixed budget. If seniors need a small gas-sipping car for city travel, however, the undisputed champion is Toyota's own gasoline-powered subcompact, the Scion xB, whose energy cost averaged a negligible 48 cents for each mile traveled over its lifetime. Fully armed with all the facts, seniors may want to zip down to their nearest Toyota dealer and trade in their Priuses for Scion xBs. That would be the equivalent of reducing their energy footprint from a size 24D to about a size 5A. In the case of global warming, one small step for man may turn out to be a giant leap for mankind. |
One Quote stated: So, which is more financially sound, gasoline or battery power? At $1000 for the battery and a lifespan of eight years or longer, the battery clearly wins any contest of the calculators. At a worst case of $3500 for a new battery pack, installed, along with $1.65 per gallon of gasoline, we find the battery pack is worth 2121 gallons of gasoline. Our Road Test Summary rates the (first-generation) Prius at 40.3 mpg, which would yield 85,476 miles of driving. That would be a bit over 4 cents a mile for the battery, and a financial dead heat given 10,684 miles per year of driving in eight years. Adding even a little to battery life or subtracting from its cost makes the battery a winner; and that’s not to mention any change in the price of gasoline, which is only going to go up.
A BC Government report stated: "The Prius battery (and the battery-power management system) has been designed to maximize battery life. In part this is done by keeping the battery at an optimum charge level - never fully draining it and never fully recharging it. As a result, the Prius battery leads a pretty easy life. We have lab data showing the equivalent of 180,000 miles with no deterioration and expect it to last the life of the vehicle. We also expect battery technology to continue to improve: the second-generation model battery is 15% smaller, 25% lighter, and has 35% more specific power than the first. This is true of price as well. Between the 2003 and 2004 models, service battery costs came down 36% and we expect them to continue to drop so that by the time replacements may be needed it won't be a much of an issue. Since the car went on sale in 2000, Toyota has not replaced a single battery for wear and tear.” In the future if a battery needs replacement out of warranty, it is likely to be replaced either with a new battery pack or with a reconditioned/overhauled unit. A new industry may arise that is similar to automatic transmissions where the battery is replaced with a rebuilt unit, then the removed pack would go for re-building. This will result in a lower replacement cost for hybrid vehicle owners. Another report stated: “The Prius batteries don't weigh much more than the lead acid battery on the Hummer. They come in at 80 pounds or so. Also, the nickel and other "rare earth" metals in the battery are 80-99% recyclable. We have the same recycling problem with all the lead-acid batteries from decommissioned normal cars today that we will have with hybrids as they age. I read a paper that claimed recycling the NMH batteries was easier and less energy intensive than the lead acid batteries.” Like I said earlier.....depends on which side you are on as to what you believe. I am on both sides as I have the hybrid and the jeep (and the Mitishibishi eclipse and the Scion TC and the Honda Civic and the Ford Sporttrac and a riding mower.......). I like the riding mower the best! |
Originally Posted by km5er
(Post 509482)
This has to be true! Someone wrote it down. Just like Global warming. ; )
Yes, the earth is getting warmer, but it's not because of carbon gases. We don't know why it's getting warmer. We also don't know why it got warmer 600 years ago (and then cooled again). Or 10,000 years ago (and then cooled again). Or 50,000 years ago (and then cooled again). And so on. The planet changes over time, in cycles of hundreds or thousands of years. It's been going on for 5 billion years now, and will continue to go on for at least another 5 billion. Global warming is a myth (or, more correctly, the supposed "cause" of global warming is a myth). The planet will continue to get warmer until it's done getting warmer, then it will start cooling again. There is plenty of research out there confirming this, but the sensationalist media ignores it because it's not interesting enough to get peoples attention (and get them to watch the news). |
I really like the sticker about using the gas the hybrids are saving... but I don't like the soda filled seats and pin stripping (made by car keys) that I imagine the sticker would bring.
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On the battery issue in most vehicles the components of a battery are reclaimable. I am not sure if the Prius batteries are but I would guess they are.
The bad part of this is even though we are comparing hybrids to gas guzzlers we are still in the apple to apple category when it comes to the impact on the environment. Both use gas, both take batteries, both need rubber tires, both are made from plastic and metal the list goes on. What we need is something that takes things to a whole new level either in construction components, fuel, or both. |
Originally Posted by gjeepguy
(Post 509349)
Hidden cost of driving a Prius
Totaling all the energy expended, from design to junkyard, a Hummer may be a better bargain. By James L. Martin When it comes to protecting the environment, senior citizens should concentrate more on the total energy consumed in building and operating a car than its fuel efficiency - no matter how impressive the statistics appear on the window sticker at the showroom. A prime example is Toyota's Prius, a compact hybrid that's beloved by ardent environmentalists and that fetches premium prices because it gets nearly 50 miles-pergallon in combined highway/city driving. Yet, new data have emerged that show the Prius may not be quite as eco-friendly as first assumed - if you pencil in the environmental negatives of producing it in the first place. Like most hybrids, the Prius relies on two engines - one, a conventional 76-horsepower gasoline power plant, and a second, battery-powered, that kicks in 67 more horses. Most of the gas is consumed as the car goes from 0 to 30, according to alarmed Canadian environmentalists, who say Toyota's touting of the car's green appeal leaves out a few pertinent and disturbing facts. The nickel for the battery, for instance, is mined in Sudbury, Ontario, and smelted at nearby Nickel Centre, just north of the province's massive Georgian Bay. Toyota buys about 1,000 tons of nickel from the facility each year, ships the nickel to Wales for refining, then to China, where it's manufactured into nickel foam, and then onto Toyota's battery plant in Japan. That alone creates a globe-trotting trail of carbon emissions that ought to seriously concern everyone involved in the fight against global warming. All told, the start-tofinish journey travels more than 10,000 miles - mostly by container ship, but also by diesel locomotive. But it's not just the clouds of greenhouse gases generated by all that smelting, refining, manufacturing and transporting that worries green activists. The 1,250-foot-tall smokestack that spews huge puffs of sulphur dioxide at the Sudbury mine and smelter operation has left a large swath of the surrounding area looking like a surrealistic scene from the depths of hell. On the perimeter of the area, skeletons of trees and bushes stand like ghostly sentinels guarding a sprawling wasteland. Astronauts in training for NASA actually have practiced driving moon buggies on the suburban Sudbury tract because it's considered a duplicate of the Moon's landscape. "The acid rain around Sudbury was so bad it destroyed all the plants, and the soil slid down off the hillside," David Martin, Greenpeace's energy coordinator in Canada, told the London Daily Mail. "The solution they came up with was the Superstack. The idea was to dilute pollution, but all it did was spread the fallout across northern Ontario," Martin told the British newspaper, adding that Sudbury remains "a major environmental and health problem. The environmental cost of producing that car battery is pretty high." A "Dust to Dust" study by CNW Marketing Research of Bandon, Ore., shows the overall eco-costs of automotive hybrids may be even higher. Released last December, the study tabulated all data on the energy necessary to plan, build, sell, drive and dispose of a vehicle from drawing board to junkyard, including such items as plant-to-dealer fuel costs, distances driven, electricity usage per pound of material in each vehicle, and hundreds of other variables. To put the data into understandable terms for consumers, CNW translated it into a "dollars per lifetime mile" figure, or the energy cost per mile driven. When looked at from that perspective, the Prius and other hybrids quickly morphed from fuel-sippers into energy-guzzlers. The Prius registered an energy-cost average of $3.25 per mile driven over its expected life span of 100,000 miles. Ironically, a Hummer, the brooding giant that has become the bête noir of the green movement, did much better, with an energy-cost average of $1.95 over its expected life span of 300,000 miles. And its crash protection makes it far safer than the tiny Prius. Such information should be of major concern to senior citizens - especially those on a fixed budget. If seniors need a small gas-sipping car for city travel, however, the undisputed champion is Toyota's own gasoline-powered subcompact, the Scion xB, whose energy cost averaged a negligible 48 cents for each mile traveled over its lifetime. Fully armed with all the facts, seniors may want to zip down to their nearest Toyota dealer and trade in their Priuses for Scion xBs. That would be the equivalent of reducing their energy footprint from a size 24D to about a size 5A. In the case of global warming, one small step for man may turn out to be a giant leap for mankind. |
Originally Posted by undertow119
(Post 509648)
Global warming is another myth put forth by the environmentalist pinheads and propagated by the sensationalist media, duping the government into funding billions of dollars in research to "prove" that it exists.
Yes, the earth is getting warmer, but it's not because of carbon gases. We don't know why it's getting warmer. We also don't know why it got warmer 600 years ago (and then cooled again). Or 10,000 years ago (and then cooled again). Or 50,000 years ago (and then cooled again). And so on. The planet changes over time, in cycles of hundreds or thousands of years. It's been going on for 5 billion years now, and will continue to go on for at least another 5 billion. Global warming is a myth (or, more correctly, the supposed "cause" of global warming is a myth). The planet will continue to get warmer until it's done getting warmer, then it will start cooling again. There is plenty of research out there confirming this, but the sensationalist media ignores it because it's not interesting enough to get peoples attention (and get them to watch the news). You know...I agree with an eariler poster that it would be funny to place a hybrid sticker on the jeep but then he/she is right in that some yahoo would key it. What we need are small nuclear power plants that would fuel the jeep for 40 years! Then we would take the spent fuel and shoot it to the moon (or Iraq?) |
Originally Posted by km5er
(Post 509251)
The really sad thing is that the Prius is in its third generation and is still the most advanced car in the world and yet our own auto makers have not come close to matching it.
i think corn ethanol is stupid, but the cane seems like more of the way to go than a prius in my book |
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I was very concerned about this as well....I know my actions alone can make a substantial impact on global warming so here is my contribution.......:rotflmao2::rotflmao2::rotflmao 2::rotflmao2::rotflmao2::rotflmao2:
Originally Posted by RedneckJeep
(Post 507971)
Piss on the greenie libtard bastards. Just hate um back. It works for me.
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I had a Honda in high school that got almost 45 MPGs. That same model in the 08 edition gets 28 MPGS just because of all the emission standards that it has to meet!!! It uses almost twice as much gas as my old beater, but it puts out less emisions. Makes no sense to me at all.
I took the cats off of my pickup and modified a few other emission parts and almost doubled my gas mileage!! Went from 12 mpgs to 19 mpgs along with a lot more noticeable power (+ 40 hp and 60 ft-lbs according dyno results found on the web). I also found a few articles that explain very convincinly that my truck is now better for the enviroment. It might put out a little more carbon, but the engine is burning gas more efficiently and reducing my consumption. There is so much "damage", as the greenies like to say, done just getting gas to the pump that you using it doesnt even make a dent in whats allready done. I love Mother Earth as much as anybody. Im from the midwest and now I live in Alaska. I hunt, fish, offroad, and I use to grow my own food and raise my own meat....I want to preserve what we have very badly, BUT this whole greenhouse crap is a croc of shit stewed up by companies like GE and liberal extremists like Clinton (female), Gore and Obama for tons of money and shady politics. |
E85 is a croc of sh*t too!!
Im from Indiana, all we do is grow food, mostly corn. We have very little wooded areas left. But now that the demand for E85 has skyrocketed, the little wooded areas we had left are now gone. Farmers are chopping them down, taking out fence rows, ditches, CRP fields, and swamp land. The places that I use to hunt for monster white tall are now corn fields. The phesant that use to be everywhere are now gone.
Farmers quit growing beans, wheat, hay, feed for animals, and any other crop you could think of just to meet the corn demand. And who would blame them, they went from being poor farmers (believe me, I use to be one of them) to all of a sudden being rich. And that has caused the price of everything to inflate because now all of a sudden no one is growing soy or wheat or feed. I know quite a few animal farmers that were doing good last year, and are out of business this year because they cant afford to feed there cattle, pigs or chickens. That has caused the price of meat, milk and eggs to go through the roof. I had a nice chunk of money sitting in the bank so that I could someday buy a nice little chunk of land out in the country and retire. But that piece of land I was gonna buy has literaly increased 10X in price in the last 2 years because of the demand for corn. And forget about the money I had saved for retirement thanks to the insane increase in inflation, Im gonna have to work for an additional 10 years if plan on living past 70. So someone please tell me how E85 is gonna save the world, because it is destroying mine... and its not even efficient, what the f*ck!!!:thinking: |
We could always build a cover for the back area that looks like a big battery...
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