Just bought Boston acoustic speaks they r the same as the infinitys in my 08 jk will b returning maybe a tiny difference
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Just ordered mine....we'll see how it goes!
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It sounded to me like the Bostons had alot more range than the Infinitys.
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In Canada not a $118 difference my magnets on my infinitys were the same size as the acoustic
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I just finished installation of these on my rear soundbar and was amazed at the difference. For $65 total, it's well worth it. I had the basic system (not Infinity) so it was a drastic improvement. Thanks again for the write-up!
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Just ordered four. The guy at the parts desk couldn't tell me if what I ordered were Boston Acoustics. I just gave him the part number given in this thread. Hope it's right. They were $40.70 each. They looked at me like I had three heads when I told them I was ordering them for a Jeep. Thought they were going to have to take the rest of the day off!
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Originally Posted by darthbozak
(Post 2991043)
Just ordered four. The guy at the parts desk couldn't tell me if what I ordered were Boston Acoustics. I just gave him the part number given in this thread. Hope it's right. They were $40.70 each. They looked at me like I had three heads when I told them I was ordering them for a Jeep. Thought they were going to have to take the rest of the day off!
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Originally Posted by jeepdave
I ended up going with the Kickers (77KICK10). I don't have them installed yet, but I picked them up for $60/pair ($120 total) shipped to my door. |
Got three in today from Denver. One more coming from Detroit. Installed the sound bar speakers in the parking lot (I have a problem with patience). The difference - HOLY SHIT! :eek2: Very nice! Now my problem is the speaker covers look like they are going to shake right of the roll bar. Have got to do the fronts now.
Isn't there a thread someone can refer me to for installation. I hear those fronts on the 2012's are not easy... |
Aftermarket Infinity speakers are normally leaps and bounds better than the version they use for the so called "premium" system from the factory. This is true of the Boston Acoustics as well, their aftermarket stuff is awesome. So I'm curious why you would bother buying and installing made for mopar factory "premium" speakers? I mean I'm sure they are better but relative to what? Already cheap infinity speakers? I would just step it up to aftermarket and be done with it.
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Because of the plug and play simplicity of it. The speakers were made to go with the stock head unit. Everything jives. Why wouldn't you do it for $160? I went and got a quote for Alpines and it was going to cost $600.
Bottom line, it works very well, it's simple and it's inexpensive. I have spent a lot of money on aftermarket systems in the past and this, now, sounds just as good as any of those. So, if you'd like to go ape shit and piss away your money, no one is stopping you. I'll stick with my plan and have just as good of a system. |
Easy there bud. He's not insulting you or trying to piss in your wheaties. Just asking a question.
Who told you $600 for Alpines? Did that include installation and a BJ from a hot chick? :thinking: Right now on Crutchfield you can order a variety of speakers that will bolt in and come with their installation kits and instructions for under $200. Especially if you order from the scratch & dent or their clearance and sale stuff. I've never been impressed with factory sound system offerings. Even the upgraded setups are rarely much better than the low end aftermarket offerings. My '99 Ram's Infinity system was okay but then I put a $150 Pioneer headunit in and it came alive like you'd hope it was from the factory. Not picking on Chrysler specifically because I've seen the same with GM and Ford. Hell, I've seen good results with low end aftermarket stuff. It's not hard to make a better speaker than most factory offerings. Also, it's not hard to adapt the factory wiring to the usual speaker hook ups. Clip some wires, crimp on some ends from Radio Shack and viola! Sometimes you can even just modify the factory setup. |
Originally Posted by AJMBLAZER
(Post 2994224)
Easy there bud. He's not insulting you or trying to piss in your wheaties. Just asking a question.
Who told you $600 for Alpines? Did that include installation and a BJ from a hot chick? :thinking: Right now on Crutchfield you can order a variety of speakers that will bolt in and come with their installation kits and instructions for under $200. Especially if you order from the scratch & dent or their clearance and sale stuff. I've never been impressed with factory sound system offerings. Even the upgraded setups are rarely much better than the low end aftermarket offerings. My '99 Ram's Infinity system was okay but then I put a $150 Pioneer headunit in and it came alive like you'd hope it was from the factory. Not picking on Chrysler specifically because I've seen the same with GM and Ford. Hell, I've seen good results with low end aftermarket stuff. It's not hard to make a better speaker than most factory offerings. Also, it's not hard to adapt the factory wiring to the usual speaker hook ups. Clip some wires, crimp on some ends from Radio Shack and viola! Sometimes you can even just modify the factory setup. |
Nah.
There's a whole range of aftermarket speakers that work just fine at factory power levels. I've never ran a sub or any kind of particularly powerful aftermarket stereo. Never rewired or ran wires except for when I put a stereo and speakers in my former military Chevy CUCV pickup which never had a stereo. Always worked just fine for what I was doing. Sound competitions? No. Sound better than stock? Yes. Remember if it involves the factory and/or vehicle maker it's probably not the same product you can get over the counter or mail order from aftermarket companies. The factory deals in bulk and cost cutting measures. It may be better than the base model stuff but it almost never competes with even the lower end aftermarket stuff. |
Originally Posted by AJMBLAZER
(Post 2994330)
Nah.
There's a whole range of aftermarket speakers that work just fine at factory power levels. I've never ran a sub or any kind of particularly powerful aftermarket stereo. Never rewired or ran wires except for when I put a stereo and speakers in my former military Chevy CUCV pickup which never had a stereo. Always worked just fine for what I was doing. Sound competitions? No. Sound better than stock? Yes. Remember if it involves the factory and/or vehicle maker it's probably not the same product you can get over the counter or mail order from aftermarket companies. The factory deals in bulk and cost cutting measures. It may be better than the base model stuff but it almost never competes with even the lower end aftermarket stuff. |
No way, at full volume with a factory head unit, you will have distortion! The factory amp will start clipping the signal at even like 2/3 of the way up. I'm glad the bostons worked for you, I'm just saying that aftermarket gear is far superior on almost every level. With higher effciency, say 90 db or so, they will be driven fine with only head unit power. And 160.00 will get you a number of great plug and play options that will out perform those stock bostons. Like was mentioned before check out crutchfield.
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I was under the impression that the factory head unit has a significant power load drop for the sound bar speakers to limit vibration. I discovered that on this forum when I replaced my sound bar speakers and noticed no improvement. I returned them. I have a 2007 with the 6 disc in dash factory head unit. Was this changed with the 2012 model year?
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Originally Posted by Eckman
(Post 2994644)
I was under the impression that the factory head unit has a significant power load drop for the sound bar speakers to limit vibration. I discovered that on this forum when I replaced my sound bar speakers and noticed no improvement. I returned them. I have a 2007 with the 6 disc in dash factory head unit. Was this changed with the 2012 model year?
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Originally Posted by TJM12
(Post 2994354)
No way, at full volume with a factory head unit, you will have distortion! The factory amp will start clipping the signal at even like 2/3 of the way up. I'm glad the bostons worked for you, I'm just saying that aftermarket gear is far superior on almost every level. With higher effciency, say 90 db or so, they will be driven fine with only head unit power. And 160.00 will get you a number of great plug and play options that will out perform those stock bostons. Like was mentioned before check out crutchfield.
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We're just confused why you seem to be saying there's only two steps better than the factory crap.
-Hardly any better with slightly better materials and performance -So much better that you have to completely replace everything including wiring and add components to properly make it all work. My DD has a $180 Dual brand CD player/HD radio and Infinity 6.5" speakers that didn't cost more than $250 total. I think that much only because I've learned the guy I brought it from was a tool and paid shops to do everything so I'm sure he got raped on these. You could buy them at Crutchfield for like $80 a set. Sounds great. Even thumps a little. Nice and clear. All factory wiring aside from the radio harness adapter to the stock harness. Done similar things to probably about ten vehicles since 1998 all with decent to great results. Sounds good, not a thumping booming system (but I never want that), smaller investment, and relatively simple to set up. |
Originally Posted by AJMBLAZER
(Post 2996293)
We're just confused why you seem to be saying there's only two steps better than the factory crap.
-Hardly any better with slightly better materials and performance -So much better that you have to completely replace everything including wiring and add components to properly make it all work. My DD has a $180 Dual brand CD player/HD radio and Infinity 6.5" speakers that didn't cost more than $250 total. I think that much only because I've learned the guy I brought it from was a tool and paid shops to do everything so I'm sure he got raped on these. You could buy them at Crutchfield for like $80 a set. Sounds great. Even thumps a little. Nice and clear. All factory wiring aside from the radio harness adapter to the stock harness. Done similar things to probably about ten vehicles since 1998 all with decent to great results. Sounds good, not a thumping booming system (but I never want that), smaller investment, and relatively simple to set up. |
Crutchfield has a sale on Infinity right now and they make a 2 ohm 6.5" setup. About $225 for two sets.
http:// www. crutchfield. com/p_108629I/Infinity-Kappa-62-9i.html |
Originally Posted by Blade
(Post 2996360)
OK, it sounds alot better, and to build anything that keeps the same features and sounds any better would cost alot more. I was offering this as a complete bolt in modification with great gain for really cheap. I guess this forum was designed to keep things like this to ourselves. I have also put in a cheap head unit and cheap speakers and had it sound great for less than $250. With this setup I have added about $120 and sound much better than the $250 setups I have built in the Past. If I were to do more than this I would go with a full component system and that would cost north of $1000. This was cheap, easy, and sounded great. I realize that it is not for everyone, but I figured I would share.
We just disagree with you. Folks can do what they like. Some folks are fine with 10w factory crap radios and cardboard speakers so long as they can tune in the AM sports talk shows. |
Anyone have any specs for the BA speakers? Mainly interested in rated sensitivity, material, and ohms... Thanks!
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Originally Posted by AJMBLAZER
You're free to express your opinion. That's what forums like this are for. You expressing your opinion, folks discussing it and possibly disagreeing with you, and you either defending and explaining it or learning from it if you were wrong. We just disagree with you. Folks can do what they like. Some folks are fine with 10w factory crap radios and cardboard speakers so long as they can tune in the AM sports talk shows. |
Originally Posted by Blade
Which speakers did you trade out to? I believe the sound systems stayed the same throughout all of the model years. If you had replaced them with aftermarket speakers, this could be the problem as "most" of them require more power to drive cleanly than the factory, boston, or kicker speakers. |
I just put the boston acoustic speakers in my sound bar. So much better then the stock setup bass is excellent and sound is crisp for once. Can't wait to get sixty more dollars so I can do the front speaker. Great write up
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Originally Posted by Blade
(Post 2885892)
I have found alot of people complaining about the sound in the JK, so I decided to do this writeup on upgrading either the base system or the infinity system. The weakest link in this setup is the garbage speakers that chrysler has used. I will be using the following:
1. Boston Accoustic Speakers out of a 2010 Challenger(5081670AB) 2. Flat Razor 3. Torx Bits 4. Socket Set This was done in my 2012 so there will be several differences for you 07-10 owners. I started by removing the sound bar speaker due to the ease of access. After I had them out you could really tell the difference in quality. Attachment 285269 Attachment 285270 The only mounting difference I found was the different shape of the mounting tabs that caused the speaker grilles to not mount flush. Attachment 285279 To fix this I took a flat razor and trimmed a little off each tab of the speaker grille. Before. Attachment 285286 After. Attachment 285287 I purchased those Boston Acoustic speakers as well, its no amp powered sub woofer, but they do beat pretty well. Plus you can make out so much more of the high's and mid range out of these than my crappy stock speakers. I don't have the cash flow I once did, so I can no longer afford the $1000 stereo. These worked great in the sound bar!!! I am now saving up so I can purchase the front dash speakers too. How difficult was it to get the dash off to the point you could access the speakers? Are they the same 6 1/2" round ones that go in the sound bar? How hard is it to get to the tweeters as well, or does the whole dash have to come off for them?? Don't know if I'm ready to tear the whole thing apart. Also, when you painted your speaker surrounds what did you use, and did you have to prep it at all or just paint over the plastic? Thanks for posting this as well, I appreciate the more budget friendly upgrades. I blew all my cash on the lift and tires!! |
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Originally Posted by mrEman81
(Post 3005767)
I purchased those Boston Acoustic speakers as well, its no amp powered sub woofer, but they do beat pretty well. Plus you can make out so much more of the high's and mid range out of these than my crappy stock speakers.
I don't have the cash flow I once did, so I can no longer afford the $1000 stereo. These worked great in the sound bar!!! I am now saving up so I can purchase the front dash speakers too. How difficult was it to get the dash off to the point you could access the speakers? Are they the same 6 1/2" round ones that go in the sound bar? How hard is it to get to the tweeters as well, or does the whole dash have to come off for them?? Don't know if I'm ready to tear the whole thing apart. Also, when you painted your speaker surrounds what did you use, and did you have to prep it at all or just paint over the plastic? Thanks for posting this as well, I appreciate the more budget friendly upgrades. I blew all my cash on the lift and tires!! Attachment 314828 It was fun to say the least. Thanks for the Possitive feadback It seems like people have been more prone to tearing the idea apart rather than giving it a shot. I wouldn't have posted this writeup if I didn't think it was a nice upgrade. I have more pictures of the dash coming apart if you need them I could post them up, but like I said, I took the long route. |
Originally Posted by the_cuse420
(Post 3005544)
I just put the boston acoustic speakers in my sound bar. So much better then the stock setup bass is excellent and sound is crisp for once. Can't wait to get sixty more dollars so I can do the front speaker. Great write up
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It only took 20mins to do in the lowes parking lot. Not looking forward to doing the fronts. They sound like a bitch
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Hey blade, how did you remove the passenger side part of the dash? I can't seem to find how the airbag gets unbolted? Any pics of that part??
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Originally Posted by the_cuse420
(Post 3006711)
It only took 20mins to do in the lowes parking lot. Not looking forward to doing the fronts. They sound like a bitch
I can't thank Blade enough for sharing! I never would have figured out that 2010 Challenger speakers would sound so great! The bass sounds great. The problem I am having now is that my interior light on my sound bar is vibrating and there is a shit ton of air blowing out of the light as well. Any suggestions for the tweeters? Are there certain specs I need to look at? |
Originally Posted by AdvJeep
(Post 3006782)
Hey blade, how did you remove the passenger side part of the dash? I can't seem to find how the airbag gets unbolted? Any pics of that part??
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Originally Posted by darthbozak
(Post 3016073)
I did the fronts and they weren't that bad. The passenger side I did in the parking lot at the dealership and the drivers side I did in my garage when I came home for lunch. Took about 15 minutes. I think I took out a total of 4 dash bolts and 3 speaker box bolts. This is for a 2012. It really wasn't that bad and when I got the last speaker in, it sounded great!
I can't thank Blade enough for sharing! I never would have figured out that 2010 Challenger speakers would sound so great! The bass sounds great. The problem I am having now is that my interior light on my sound bar is vibrating and there is a shit ton of air blowing out of the light as well. Any suggestions for the tweeters? Are there certain specs I need to look at? |
Ok color me a believer! I just installed the fronts, with polyfil and dynamat. Wow! What a difference! Can't wait to do the sound bar now!
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Hey Blade just wanted to say thanks for sharing this with the community, this will probably be my next upgrade once I save up a little between jeep payments and student loans payments, I don't understand why individuals have to bash other's ideas when this forum is totally for sharing as much information as possible with everyone that wants to know stuff about the jk, thanks again for the tips.
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Originally Posted by mikeysherm
Hey Blade just wanted to say thanks for sharing this with the community, this will probably be my next upgrade once I save up a little between jeep payments and student loans payments, I don't understand why individuals have to bash other's ideas when this forum is totally for sharing as much information as possible with everyone that wants to know stuff about the jk, thanks again for the tips.
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Originally Posted by TJM12
(Post 3060024)
I love how a differing opinion is considered "bashing" or "hating" when in fact it's merely just looking at the other side of the coin as it were. You claim "this forum is totally for sharing as much information as possible with everyone that wants to know stuff about the jk" and thats what people are doing.
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Just wanted to say great write up Blade, I went with the BA's as well and there is a slightly significant sound gain present.
Ignore the guys that stated it was a waste of time because this helped a lot with the rest who were looking at other alternatives to improving the current sound without blowing the roof off :beer:. |
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