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Jennythejeep 04-04-2012 11:04 AM

Just bought Boston acoustic speaks they r the same as the infinitys in my 08 jk will b returning maybe a tiny difference

BossHog 04-04-2012 01:46 PM

Just ordered mine....we'll see how it goes!

Blade 04-06-2012 05:36 AM

It sounded to me like the Bostons had alot more range than the Infinitys.

Jennythejeep 04-06-2012 03:08 PM

In Canada not a $118 difference my magnets on my infinitys were the same size as the acoustic

BossHog 04-14-2012 07:12 AM

I just finished installation of these on my rear soundbar and was amazed at the difference. For $65 total, it's well worth it. I had the basic system (not Infinity) so it was a drastic improvement. Thanks again for the write-up!

darthbozak 05-01-2012 12:10 PM

Just ordered four. The guy at the parts desk couldn't tell me if what I ordered were Boston Acoustics. I just gave him the part number given in this thread. Hope it's right. They were $40.70 each. They looked at me like I had three heads when I told them I was ordering them for a Jeep. Thought they were going to have to take the rest of the day off!

jeepdave 05-01-2012 06:04 PM


Originally Posted by darthbozak (Post 2991043)
Just ordered four. The guy at the parts desk couldn't tell me if what I ordered were Boston Acoustics. I just gave him the part number given in this thread. Hope it's right. They were $40.70 each. They looked at me like I had three heads when I told them I was ordering them for a Jeep. Thought they were going to have to take the rest of the day off!

I ended up going with the Kickers (77KICK10). I don't have them installed yet, but I picked them up for $60/pair ($120 total) shipped to my door.

DBTJKU 05-01-2012 06:22 PM


Originally Posted by jeepdave

I ended up going with the Kickers (77KICK10). I don't have them installed yet, but I picked them up for $60/pair ($120 total) shipped to my door.

Same here. I installed my fronts and waiting to get my second pair because I ordered 2 and the place only sent me 1 pr. I have the Infinity system and these sound a lot better. I also stuffed all the enclosures with poly fill and installed JL Audio zr100ct in tweeter location. I have it setup with an RTA and factory was bass -5, mid +3 and high +9 to have any highs show up on RTA screen. With setup now without sound bars changed it is at -3,0,+3. And the curve is pretty flat and drops off smoothly. The sub enclosure has absolutely no dampen material in it, the bass response is much better now stuffed with poly fill

darthbozak 05-02-2012 04:31 PM

Got three in today from Denver. One more coming from Detroit. Installed the sound bar speakers in the parking lot (I have a problem with patience). The difference - HOLY SHIT! :eek2: Very nice! Now my problem is the speaker covers look like they are going to shake right of the roll bar. Have got to do the fronts now.

Isn't there a thread someone can refer me to for installation. I hear those fronts on the 2012's are not easy...

TJM12 05-02-2012 04:51 PM

Aftermarket Infinity speakers are normally leaps and bounds better than the version they use for the so called "premium" system from the factory. This is true of the Boston Acoustics as well, their aftermarket stuff is awesome. So I'm curious why you would bother buying and installing made for mopar factory "premium" speakers? I mean I'm sure they are better but relative to what? Already cheap infinity speakers? I would just step it up to aftermarket and be done with it.

darthbozak 05-02-2012 06:38 PM

Because of the plug and play simplicity of it. The speakers were made to go with the stock head unit. Everything jives. Why wouldn't you do it for $160? I went and got a quote for Alpines and it was going to cost $600.

Bottom line, it works very well, it's simple and it's inexpensive. I have spent a lot of money on aftermarket systems in the past and this, now, sounds just as good as any of those.

So, if you'd like to go ape shit and piss away your money, no one is stopping you. I'll stick with my plan and have just as good of a system.

AJMBLAZER 05-03-2012 04:34 AM

Easy there bud. He's not insulting you or trying to piss in your wheaties. Just asking a question.

Who told you $600 for Alpines? Did that include installation and a BJ from a hot chick? :thinking:

Right now on Crutchfield you can order a variety of speakers that will bolt in and come with their installation kits and instructions for under $200. Especially if you order from the scratch & dent or their clearance and sale stuff.
I've never been impressed with factory sound system offerings. Even the upgraded setups are rarely much better than the low end aftermarket offerings. My '99 Ram's Infinity system was okay but then I put a $150 Pioneer headunit in and it came alive like you'd hope it was from the factory. Not picking on Chrysler specifically because I've seen the same with GM and Ford.
Hell, I've seen good results with low end aftermarket stuff. It's not hard to make a better speaker than most factory offerings.

Also, it's not hard to adapt the factory wiring to the usual speaker hook ups. Clip some wires, crimp on some ends from Radio Shack and viola! Sometimes you can even just modify the factory setup.

Blade 05-03-2012 05:46 AM


Originally Posted by AJMBLAZER (Post 2994224)
Easy there bud. He's not insulting you or trying to piss in your wheaties. Just asking a question.

Who told you $600 for Alpines? Did that include installation and a BJ from a hot chick? :thinking:

Right now on Crutchfield you can order a variety of speakers that will bolt in and come with their installation kits and instructions for under $200. Especially if you order from the scratch & dent or their clearance and sale stuff.
I've never been impressed with factory sound system offerings. Even the upgraded setups are rarely much better than the low end aftermarket offerings. My '99 Ram's Infinity system was okay but then I put a $150 Pioneer headunit in and it came alive like you'd hope it was from the factory. Not picking on Chrysler specifically because I've seen the same with GM and Ford.
Hell, I've seen good results with low end aftermarket stuff. It's not hard to make a better speaker than most factory offerings.

Also, it's not hard to adapt the factory wiring to the usual speaker hook ups. Clip some wires, crimp on some ends from Radio Shack and viola! Sometimes you can even just modify the factory setup.

Problem is, Aftermarket speakers require much more power to push them. The cheap Alpines pull in 70W RMS, where the factory radio only puts out around 25W RMS, and the infinity amp puts out 50W RMS. By using aftermarket speakers you have to use a smaller speaker(6inch vs 6.5 inch) you have to splice your wiring, you need adapter brackets, and you will need to wire in an amp to be able to push the speakers at a higher volume without distortion(hence $600). This is a "more bang for your buck" solution to a full system modification. So to do it the right way with aftermarket speakers, would cost alot more.

AJMBLAZER 05-03-2012 05:52 AM

Nah.

There's a whole range of aftermarket speakers that work just fine at factory power levels.

I've never ran a sub or any kind of particularly powerful aftermarket stereo. Never rewired or ran wires except for when I put a stereo and speakers in my former military Chevy CUCV pickup which never had a stereo.
Always worked just fine for what I was doing. Sound competitions? No. Sound better than stock? Yes.

Remember if it involves the factory and/or vehicle maker it's probably not the same product you can get over the counter or mail order from aftermarket companies. The factory deals in bulk and cost cutting measures. It may be better than the base model stuff but it almost never competes with even the lower end aftermarket stuff.

Blade 05-03-2012 06:02 AM


Originally Posted by AJMBLAZER (Post 2994330)
Nah.

There's a whole range of aftermarket speakers that work just fine at factory power levels.

I've never ran a sub or any kind of particularly powerful aftermarket stereo. Never rewired or ran wires except for when I put a stereo and speakers in my former military Chevy CUCV pickup which never had a stereo.
Always worked just fine for what I was doing. Sound competitions? No. Sound better than stock? Yes.

Remember if it involves the factory and/or vehicle maker it's probably not the same product you can get over the counter or mail order from aftermarket companies. The factory deals in bulk and cost cutting measures. It may be better than the base model stuff but it almost never competes with even the lower end aftermarket stuff.

Yes, but do they sound better. Volume and clarity, I will put these little bostons up against any aftermarket speaker and unless you amplify them I will sound better and be able to crank it up louder without distortion. Volume ablility is important to me with my soft top and I can crank these all the way up and never distort, where even the kickers do. Like I said, "More Bang For Your Buck".

TJM12 05-03-2012 06:18 AM

No way, at full volume with a factory head unit, you will have distortion! The factory amp will start clipping the signal at even like 2/3 of the way up. I'm glad the bostons worked for you, I'm just saying that aftermarket gear is far superior on almost every level. With higher effciency, say 90 db or so, they will be driven fine with only head unit power. And 160.00 will get you a number of great plug and play options that will out perform those stock bostons. Like was mentioned before check out crutchfield.

Eckman 05-03-2012 08:54 AM

I was under the impression that the factory head unit has a significant power load drop for the sound bar speakers to limit vibration. I discovered that on this forum when I replaced my sound bar speakers and noticed no improvement. I returned them. I have a 2007 with the 6 disc in dash factory head unit. Was this changed with the 2012 model year?

Blade 05-04-2012 05:32 AM


Originally Posted by Eckman (Post 2994644)
I was under the impression that the factory head unit has a significant power load drop for the sound bar speakers to limit vibration. I discovered that on this forum when I replaced my sound bar speakers and noticed no improvement. I returned them. I have a 2007 with the 6 disc in dash factory head unit. Was this changed with the 2012 model year?

Which speakers did you trade out to? I believe the sound systems stayed the same throughout all of the model years. If you had replaced them with aftermarket speakers, this could be the problem as "most" of them require more power to drive cleanly than the factory, boston, or kicker speakers.

Blade 05-04-2012 05:37 AM


Originally Posted by TJM12 (Post 2994354)
No way, at full volume with a factory head unit, you will have distortion! The factory amp will start clipping the signal at even like 2/3 of the way up. I'm glad the bostons worked for you, I'm just saying that aftermarket gear is far superior on almost every level. With higher effciency, say 90 db or so, they will be driven fine with only head unit power. And 160.00 will get you a number of great plug and play options that will out perform those stock bostons. Like was mentioned before check out crutchfield.

I don't have the factory amp. My speakers sound great and I wouldn't waste my time putting aftermarket speakers in without rewiring, adding an amp, and maybe even an EQ. This is a quick, cheap, great sounding option for those who don't want to build a top of the line sound system, but do want to sound better than what we were given. This is a proposed solution to the factory garbage we are given. I have never said that you couldn't make a better sounding system. I have just stated that you couldn't do any better for this price range. Sorry if I have offended you. If your ever in FL and wanna go wheeling drop me a PM, and good day to you sir.:rock:

AJMBLAZER 05-04-2012 05:43 AM

We're just confused why you seem to be saying there's only two steps better than the factory crap.

-Hardly any better with slightly better materials and performance
-So much better that you have to completely replace everything including wiring and add components to properly make it all work.


My DD has a $180 Dual brand CD player/HD radio and Infinity 6.5" speakers that didn't cost more than $250 total. I think that much only because I've learned the guy I brought it from was a tool and paid shops to do everything so I'm sure he got raped on these. You could buy them at Crutchfield for like $80 a set.
Sounds great. Even thumps a little. Nice and clear. All factory wiring aside from the radio harness adapter to the stock harness.

Done similar things to probably about ten vehicles since 1998 all with decent to great results. Sounds good, not a thumping booming system (but I never want that), smaller investment, and relatively simple to set up.

Blade 05-04-2012 06:19 AM


Originally Posted by AJMBLAZER (Post 2996293)
We're just confused why you seem to be saying there's only two steps better than the factory crap.

-Hardly any better with slightly better materials and performance
-So much better that you have to completely replace everything including wiring and add components to properly make it all work.


My DD has a $180 Dual brand CD player/HD radio and Infinity 6.5" speakers that didn't cost more than $250 total. I think that much only because I've learned the guy I brought it from was a tool and paid shops to do everything so I'm sure he got raped on these. You could buy them at Crutchfield for like $80 a set.
Sounds great. Even thumps a little. Nice and clear. All factory wiring aside from the radio harness adapter to the stock harness.

Done similar things to probably about ten vehicles since 1998 all with decent to great results. Sounds good, not a thumping booming system (but I never want that), smaller investment, and relatively simple to set up.

OK, it sounds alot better, and to build anything that keeps the same features and sounds any better would cost alot more. I was offering this as a complete bolt in modification with great gain for really cheap. I guess this forum was designed to keep things like this to ourselves. I have also put in a cheap head unit and cheap speakers and had it sound great for less than $250. With this setup I have added about $120 and sound much better than the $250 setups I have built in the Past. If I were to do more than this I would go with a full component system and that would cost north of $1000. This was cheap, easy, and sounded great. I realize that it is not for everyone, but I figured I would share.

PGT 05-04-2012 06:29 AM

Crutchfield has a sale on Infinity right now and they make a 2 ohm 6.5" setup. About $225 for two sets.

http:// www. crutchfield. com/p_108629I/Infinity-Kappa-62-9i.html

AJMBLAZER 05-04-2012 06:46 AM


Originally Posted by Blade (Post 2996360)
OK, it sounds alot better, and to build anything that keeps the same features and sounds any better would cost alot more. I was offering this as a complete bolt in modification with great gain for really cheap. I guess this forum was designed to keep things like this to ourselves. I have also put in a cheap head unit and cheap speakers and had it sound great for less than $250. With this setup I have added about $120 and sound much better than the $250 setups I have built in the Past. If I were to do more than this I would go with a full component system and that would cost north of $1000. This was cheap, easy, and sounded great. I realize that it is not for everyone, but I figured I would share.

You're free to express your opinion. That's what forums like this are for. You expressing your opinion, folks discussing it and possibly disagreeing with you, and you either defending and explaining it or learning from it if you were wrong.

We just disagree with you. Folks can do what they like. Some folks are fine with 10w factory crap radios and cardboard speakers so long as they can tune in the AM sports talk shows.

yo_marc 05-04-2012 06:55 AM

Anyone have any specs for the BA speakers? Mainly interested in rated sensitivity, material, and ohms... Thanks!

TJM12 05-04-2012 07:00 AM


Originally Posted by AJMBLAZER

You're free to express your opinion. That's what forums like this are for. You expressing your opinion, folks discussing it and possibly disagreeing with you, and you either defending and explaining it or learning from it if you were wrong.

We just disagree with you. Folks can do what they like. Some folks are fine with 10w factory crap radios and cardboard speakers so long as they can tune in the AM sports talk shows.

Exactly! Like I was saying I just dont get the logic behind spending good money to go from stock to more stock? If your happy with it great! But with 160.00 you could have done much better.

Eckman 05-05-2012 07:03 PM


Originally Posted by Blade

Which speakers did you trade out to? I believe the sound systems stayed the same throughout all of the model years. If you had replaced them with aftermarket speakers, this could be the problem as "most" of them require more power to drive cleanly than the factory, boston, or kicker speakers.

I think they were pioneer or clarion from best buy. I was just looking to get an improvement from the sound bar. Its horrible. So you think if I did go with the kickers I would notice a difference without going to an aftermarket head unit?

the_cuse420 05-09-2012 01:16 PM

I just put the boston acoustic speakers in my sound bar. So much better then the stock setup bass is excellent and sound is crisp for once. Can't wait to get sixty more dollars so I can do the front speaker. Great write up

mrEman81 05-09-2012 03:27 PM


Originally Posted by Blade (Post 2885892)
I have found alot of people complaining about the sound in the JK, so I decided to do this writeup on upgrading either the base system or the infinity system. The weakest link in this setup is the garbage speakers that chrysler has used. I will be using the following:

1. Boston Accoustic Speakers out of a 2010 Challenger(5081670AB)
2. Flat Razor
3. Torx Bits
4. Socket Set

This was done in my 2012 so there will be several differences for you 07-10 owners.

I started by removing the sound bar speaker due to the ease of access. After I had them out you could really tell the difference in quality.

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The only mounting difference I found was the different shape of the mounting tabs that caused the speaker grilles to not mount flush.

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To fix this I took a flat razor and trimmed a little off each tab of the speaker grille.

Before.
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After.
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I purchased those Boston Acoustic speakers as well, its no amp powered sub woofer, but they do beat pretty well. Plus you can make out so much more of the high's and mid range out of these than my crappy stock speakers.

I don't have the cash flow I once did, so I can no longer afford the $1000 stereo. These worked great in the sound bar!!! I am now saving up so I can purchase the front dash speakers too. How difficult was it to get the dash off to the point you could access the speakers? Are they the same 6 1/2" round ones that go in the sound bar?
How hard is it to get to the tweeters as well, or does the whole dash have to come off for them??
Don't know if I'm ready to tear the whole thing apart.

Also, when you painted your speaker surrounds what did you use, and did you have to prep it at all or just paint over the plastic?

Thanks for posting this as well, I appreciate the more budget friendly upgrades. I blew all my cash on the lift and tires!!

Blade 05-09-2012 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by mrEman81 (Post 3005767)
I purchased those Boston Acoustic speakers as well, its no amp powered sub woofer, but they do beat pretty well. Plus you can make out so much more of the high's and mid range out of these than my crappy stock speakers.

I don't have the cash flow I once did, so I can no longer afford the $1000 stereo. These worked great in the sound bar!!! I am now saving up so I can purchase the front dash speakers too. How difficult was it to get the dash off to the point you could access the speakers? Are they the same 6 1/2" round ones that go in the sound bar?
How hard is it to get to the tweeters as well, or does the whole dash have to come off for them??
Don't know if I'm ready to tear the whole thing apart.

Also, when you painted your speaker surrounds what did you use, and did you have to prep it at all or just paint over the plastic?

Thanks for posting this as well, I appreciate the more budget friendly upgrades. I blew all my cash on the lift and tires!!

I use these for my highs and mids but I also added a single sub that I had laying around that gave it the final push to awsome. The speakers in the dash are the exact same. I don't know about how much of the dash you have to remove because I removed the whole thing being that I was also painting my cluster and A/C rings. I would imagine with a little imagination that you could find and easier way to remove them but I ended up taking out the whole dash.
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It was fun to say the least. Thanks for the Possitive feadback It seems like people have been more prone to tearing the idea apart rather than giving it a shot. I wouldn't have posted this writeup if I didn't think it was a nice upgrade. I have more pictures of the dash coming apart if you need them I could post them up, but like I said, I took the long route.

Blade 05-09-2012 04:55 PM


Originally Posted by the_cuse420 (Post 3005544)
I just put the boston acoustic speakers in my sound bar. So much better then the stock setup bass is excellent and sound is crisp for once. Can't wait to get sixty more dollars so I can do the front speaker. Great write up

Thanks for the update. I'm glad you like the upgrade:rock:

the_cuse420 05-10-2012 04:21 AM

It only took 20mins to do in the lowes parking lot. Not looking forward to doing the fronts. They sound like a bitch

AdvJeep 05-10-2012 05:27 AM

Hey blade, how did you remove the passenger side part of the dash? I can't seem to find how the airbag gets unbolted? Any pics of that part??

darthbozak 05-15-2012 12:59 PM


Originally Posted by the_cuse420 (Post 3006711)
It only took 20mins to do in the lowes parking lot. Not looking forward to doing the fronts. They sound like a bitch

I did the fronts and they weren't that bad. The passenger side I did in the parking lot at the dealership and the drivers side I did in my garage when I came home for lunch. Took about 15 minutes. I think I took out a total of 4 dash bolts and 3 speaker box bolts. This is for a 2012. It really wasn't that bad and when I got the last speaker in, it sounded great!

I can't thank Blade enough for sharing! I never would have figured out that 2010 Challenger speakers would sound so great! The bass sounds great. The problem I am having now is that my interior light on my sound bar is vibrating and there is a shit ton of air blowing out of the light as well.

Any suggestions for the tweeters? Are there certain specs I need to look at?

Blade 05-18-2012 01:02 PM


Originally Posted by AdvJeep (Post 3006782)
Hey blade, how did you remove the passenger side part of the dash? I can't seem to find how the airbag gets unbolted? Any pics of that part??

There are 2 bolts that come in from underneath and one, that has a little removeable cutout on top of the dash, that comes in from on top. Unfortunatly I have no pics because at that point I was tired of taking stuff apart and taking pictures of the stuff I took apart.:rotflmao2:

Blade 05-18-2012 01:04 PM


Originally Posted by darthbozak (Post 3016073)
I did the fronts and they weren't that bad. The passenger side I did in the parking lot at the dealership and the drivers side I did in my garage when I came home for lunch. Took about 15 minutes. I think I took out a total of 4 dash bolts and 3 speaker box bolts. This is for a 2012. It really wasn't that bad and when I got the last speaker in, it sounded great!

I can't thank Blade enough for sharing! I never would have figured out that 2010 Challenger speakers would sound so great! The bass sounds great. The problem I am having now is that my interior light on my sound bar is vibrating and there is a shit ton of air blowing out of the light as well.

Any suggestions for the tweeters? Are there certain specs I need to look at?

I left the tweeters alone as I am more mid and bass orriented and they didn't sound bad. I have seen several other writups on tweeter replacement but I figure mine will be useless after I put in a sport cage, so what's the point. :rock:

Fivepack1966 06-07-2012 06:01 AM

Ok color me a believer! I just installed the fronts, with polyfil and dynamat. Wow! What a difference! Can't wait to do the sound bar now!

mikeysherm 06-09-2012 08:35 PM

Hey Blade just wanted to say thanks for sharing this with the community, this will probably be my next upgrade once I save up a little between jeep payments and student loans payments, I don't understand why individuals have to bash other's ideas when this forum is totally for sharing as much information as possible with everyone that wants to know stuff about the jk, thanks again for the tips.

TJM12 06-10-2012 04:51 AM


Originally Posted by mikeysherm
Hey Blade just wanted to say thanks for sharing this with the community, this will probably be my next upgrade once I save up a little between jeep payments and student loans payments, I don't understand why individuals have to bash other's ideas when this forum is totally for sharing as much information as possible with everyone that wants to know stuff about the jk, thanks again for the tips.

I love how a differing opinion is considered "bashing" or "hating" when in fact it's merely just looking at the other side of the coin as it were. You claim "this forum is totally for sharing as much information as possible with everyone that wants to know stuff about the jk" and thats what people are doing.

Blade 06-10-2012 05:18 AM


Originally Posted by TJM12 (Post 3060024)
I love how a differing opinion is considered "bashing" or "hating" when in fact it's merely just looking at the other side of the coin as it were. You claim "this forum is totally for sharing as much information as possible with everyone that wants to know stuff about the jk" and thats what people are doing.

I think we have already gone down this road in this thread. As I have read, anyone who has tried this install has seen results. The only person who even came close to not liking these speakers was someone with the infinity setup that said improvement wasn't enough for him, but not that it wasn't an improvement. I consider it "bashing" when someone hammers something without trying it first. Not everyone has hundreds of dollars to throw in their sound system, because they would rather spend it on making their rig more capable than having a $2k sound system in a jeep that is just a glorified beach cruiser. I think that these posts have nothing to do with this writeup and should be kept out of it, as they are just opinion mostly from people who went the other way(such as you). This was a "cost effective alternative". Nobody wants to hear 25 posts on how their way was better. How about 25 posts on how this worked well or didn't.

wpgwrangler 06-10-2012 06:05 AM

Just wanted to say great write up Blade, I went with the BA's as well and there is a slightly significant sound gain present.
Ignore the guys that stated it was a waste of time because this helped a lot with the rest who were looking at other alternatives to improving the current sound without blowing the roof off :beer:.


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