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Old May 6, 2011 | 02:04 AM
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Originally Posted by HolyJoe
Also Rancho has been using a one piece bracket in their sport lift kits long before AEV decided to offer a bracket instead of cam bolts. I think part of it was they were trying to say this was a new idea maybe? You aso have to think that this is lowering your clearance by dropping the arms and mount point. ...
Yep, those are the points that WOL has been making (now that I'm not on my phone it's easier to research this). Let me add that unless you go really large tires, you're going to lose most or even all of the added clearance you get from larger tires due to these parts hanging down. Which begs the question of why did you even put a lift and larger tires on in the first place?

Also, caster is not adjustable--it fixes caster by returning the geometry to stock. But many of us are running a bit more caster in order to help with the flightiness of lifts and larger tires. If you find that you don't like your steering feel, you're still stuck with it.
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Old May 6, 2011 | 04:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Mark Doiron
Yep, those are the points that WOL has been making (now that I'm not on my phone it's easier to research this). Let me add that unless you go really large tires, you're going to lose most or even all of the added clearance you get from larger tires due to these parts hanging down. Which begs the question of why did you even put a lift and larger tires on in the first place?

Also, caster is not adjustable--it fixes caster by returning the geometry to stock. But many of us are running a bit more caster in order to help with the flightiness of lifts and larger tires. If you find that you don't like your steering feel, you're still stuck with it.
Very true. It depends on what you wanna do. I drops it some but unless your climbing a vertical wall I dont think it will be in the way much. as for flightiness I don't think it has any at all in the lift. I can tell a big difference in the ride over stock. It soaks my bumps up for sure. But the main thing that was my finial deciding point was their progressive coils. They're pretty beastly and are designed to carry a lot of weight

Either way I'm gonna get at least the front 4 arms in the future
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Old May 6, 2011 | 05:18 AM
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Ok, got approval from the CFO of household, INC. to upgrade the Jeep. I have a budget of $5000. I am getting ready to spend half of that on PSC stuff now I just need a lift and tires. Here's my list from PSC:

JK Brawler lite-bare steel, w/shackle tabs
JK Brawler lite front skid
winch fairlead mount
hawse winch fairlead
JK 4-dr Rocker Knockers
JK Rockbrawler rear bumper with tire carrier, w/cb mount and highlift jack mount and shackle tabs
Led License plate light
License plate delete
Front and rear D44 diff covers

Also getting:
RECON 10,500 winch
Bully Dog tuner(not included in the budget)

Lift:
I'm looking at the TF 3 inch with 4 flex arms but not sure if I can fit that into the budget. I might have to go with the 2.5 coil lift. However the RC 4 inch with x-flex looks pretty good and a very good price. What do you guys think?

Tires:
35x12.50x17 Fierce Attitudes, Still have to get a quote on them but I have found them on the internet for about $200 apiece. If anyone has any extra 35's laying around let me know, I'd be up to paying for used just to increase my budget on the lift.

Also doing the flare trim and bedline the grill.

I'm going to take a week off to install everything, the only problem is that I have to go to Fort Bragg for some training in June so it's looking like July before I can get everything installed. It's going to be awesome.

Can't wait to get it done and test it out on some trails. I'm thinking a trip to Disney is going to be a must.
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Old May 6, 2011 | 05:28 AM
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Originally Posted by GIJeeper
Ok, got approval from the CFO of household, INC. to upgrade the Jeep. I have a budget of $5000. I am getting ready to spend half of that on PSC stuff now I just need a lift and tires. Here's my list from PSC:

JK Brawler lite-bare steel, w/shackle tabs
JK Brawler lite front skid
winch fairlead mount
hawse winch fairlead
JK 4-dr Rocker Knockers
JK Rockbrawler rear bumper with tire carrier, w/cb mount and highlift jack mount and shackle tabs
Led License plate light
License plate delete
Front and rear D44 diff covers

Also getting:
RECON 10,500 winch
Bully Dog tuner(not included in the budget)

Lift:
I'm looking at the TF 3 inch with 4 flex arms but not sure if I can fit that into the budget. I might have to go with the 2.5 coil lift. However the RC 4 inch with x-flex looks pretty good and a very good price. What do you guys think?

Tires:
35x12.50x17 Fierce Attitudes, Still have to get a quote on them but I have found them on the internet for about $200 apiece. If anyone has any extra 35's laying around let me know, I'd be up to paying for used just to increase my budget on the lift.

Also doing the flare trim and bedline the grill.

I'm going to take a week off to install everything, the only problem is that I have to go to Fort Bragg for some training in June so it's looking like July before I can get everything installed. It's going to be awesome.

Can't wait to get it done and test it out on some trails. I'm thinking a trip to Disney is going to be a must.
Awesome! Congrats! You'll be grinning for a while after everything starts arriving lol
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Old May 6, 2011 | 06:57 AM
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Originally Posted by GIJeeper
...If anyone has any extra 35's laying around let me know, I'd be up to paying for used just to increase my budget on the lift...
Check with TORN (Jeff). I know he just upgraded to 37s and has a set of 35s he might be selling . Heck of a list there - can't wait to see the end result
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Old May 6, 2011 | 07:01 AM
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Originally Posted by jfreeddo
Where the h**l is ujoint!!! Hello, mcfly???!
Hadn't seen him in a while . Wonder if he's out chasing UPS trucks again?
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Old May 6, 2011 | 07:57 AM
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got all my money together...i need to buy a front bumper..front 3/4" spacers. hi-lift, hood mount among other things. time to get clicking soon.

So is Benchmark designs front sport bumpers included in the rediculous wait time to recieve anything from them? I really cant decide if i want the PSC BFH normal or stinger bumper. help!
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Old May 6, 2011 | 08:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Red-Dirt
...So is Benchmark designs front sport bumpers included in the rediculous wait time to recieve anything from them? I really cant decide if i want the PSC BFH normal or stinger bumper. help!
I'm sure just about anything from Benchmark Designs will have a ridiculously long wait time - I used to think Shrockworks was bad with the wait time, but I think someone else might've taken the cake there . On the stinger or normal, that's more of a personal preference really - I like the look of Stingers, but I know not everyone does. Whatever you buy, make sure you do so keeping your end result in mind - like for example, if you later plan on going to a bigger lift, larger tires, etc., you don't want to have to redo all the bumpers, accessories, etc.
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Old May 6, 2011 | 08:08 AM
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Originally Posted by GIJeeper
Ok, got approval from the CFO of household, INC. to upgrade the Jeep. I have a budget of $5000. I am getting ready to spend half of that on PSC stuff now I just need a lift and tires. Here's my list from PSC:

JK Brawler lite-bare steel, w/shackle tabs
JK Brawler lite front skid
winch fairlead mount
hawse winch fairlead
JK 4-dr Rocker Knockers
JK Rockbrawler rear bumper with tire carrier, w/cb mount and highlift jack mount and shackle tabs
Led License plate light
License plate delete
Front and rear D44 diff covers

Also getting:
RECON 10,500 winch
Bully Dog tuner(not included in the budget)

Lift:
I'm looking at the TF 3 inch with 4 flex arms but not sure if I can fit that into the budget. I might have to go with the 2.5 coil lift. However the RC 4 inch with x-flex looks pretty good and a very good price. What do you guys think?

Tires:
35x12.50x17 Fierce Attitudes, Still have to get a quote on them but I have found them on the internet for about $200 apiece. If anyone has any extra 35's laying around let me know, I'd be up to paying for used just to increase my budget on the lift.

Also doing the flare trim and bedline the grill.

I'm going to take a week off to install everything, the only problem is that I have to go to Fort Bragg for some training in June so it's looking like July before I can get everything installed. It's going to be awesome.

Can't wait to get it done and test it out on some trails. I'm thinking a trip to Disney is going to be a must.
So you finally wore her down eh...haha Let me know when you get firm dates would love to try get free to help.

Mark has the 2.5 coil lift with 35's and untrimmed fenders and he says it only rubs slightly. If you trimmed the fenders I am sure they will clear.

Another recon..

Def check with Torn on his tires. For sure you can find one to use as a spare so you can just buy 4.
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Old May 6, 2011 | 08:10 AM
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Originally Posted by interceptor_1972
I'm sure just about anything from Benchmark Designs will have a ridiculously long wait time - I used to think Shrockworks was bad with the wait time, but I think someone else might've taken the cake there . On the stinger or normal, that's more of a personal preference really - I like the look of Stingers, but I know not everyone does. Whatever you buy, make sure you do so keeping your end result in mind - like for example, if you later plan on going to a bigger lift, larger tires, etc., you don't want to have to redo all the bumpers, accessories, etc.
So benchmark is out of the running for that reason alone. Evo's 1/4 pounder is nice and all, but dont want to spend that much and dont need one that heavy...even though i like that a winch fits down in it. So its PSC BFH for me. I love the stingers, just dont want it to look weird on a jeep that isnt lifted and have at least 37's like in all their pictures. But from what you said about future plans..i think it will look good. Cause i would like to do 36-37's. So PSC BFH with stinger it is!
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