2.5 lift what extras are needed?
[QUOTE=planman;1144270]Doesn't matter.
A JK with a 2.5" BB will RTI the same as a 2.5" taller aftermarket spring if the shocks and bumpstops are the same.
A JK with a 2.5" BB will significantly outscore the RTI of a stock rig.
Because the longer shocks are the limiting factor of the droop and the bumpstops are the limiting factor of the up travel, stock springs with a 2.5" spacer will have the same articulation as an aftermarket spring that is 2.5" longer.
I suppose I could prove this via an RTI of my JK with 2.5" TF BB and then replace the BB with 2.5" TF springs. If I am on the bumpstops on the passenger side, with my shocks fully extended on the driver's side, there can be no difference.
The springs would cost me about $300, not sure it is worth it. I could spend the $300 on a synthetic winch rope and safety thimble, or front/rear JKS adjustable trackbars, or adjustable front lower control arms, or several other items that would improve my performance more than springs to replace my BB spacers.
Although, I think that the picture below is proof enough. My friend is running a 2.5" OME kit with extended bumpstops, and I am running a 2.5" BB with stock front bumpstops. His articulation is limited by shorter shocks and extended front bumpstops It doesn't matter that he has longer springs.
Because the longer shocks are the limiting factor of the droop and the bumpstops are the limiting factor of the up travel, stock springs with a 2.5" spacer will have the same articulation as an aftermarket spring that is 2.5" longer
I think we're saying the same thing. the 2.5"BB won't give you more articulation. I'm running the 2.5"BB w/ 2.5" front coilsprings for winch and bumper so it sits taller now
A JK with a 2.5" BB will RTI the same as a 2.5" taller aftermarket spring if the shocks and bumpstops are the same.
A JK with a 2.5" BB will significantly outscore the RTI of a stock rig.
Because the longer shocks are the limiting factor of the droop and the bumpstops are the limiting factor of the up travel, stock springs with a 2.5" spacer will have the same articulation as an aftermarket spring that is 2.5" longer.
I suppose I could prove this via an RTI of my JK with 2.5" TF BB and then replace the BB with 2.5" TF springs. If I am on the bumpstops on the passenger side, with my shocks fully extended on the driver's side, there can be no difference.
The springs would cost me about $300, not sure it is worth it. I could spend the $300 on a synthetic winch rope and safety thimble, or front/rear JKS adjustable trackbars, or adjustable front lower control arms, or several other items that would improve my performance more than springs to replace my BB spacers.
Although, I think that the picture below is proof enough. My friend is running a 2.5" OME kit with extended bumpstops, and I am running a 2.5" BB with stock front bumpstops. His articulation is limited by shorter shocks and extended front bumpstops It doesn't matter that he has longer springs.
Because the longer shocks are the limiting factor of the droop and the bumpstops are the limiting factor of the up travel, stock springs with a 2.5" spacer will have the same articulation as an aftermarket spring that is 2.5" longer
I think we're saying the same thing. the 2.5"BB won't give you more articulation. I'm running the 2.5"BB w/ 2.5" front coilsprings for winch and bumper so it sits taller now
True, in addition to shock length and bumpstops, swaybar link length and/or disconnects will limit flex/articulation.
My point was that all other things being equal, a 2.5" taller coil spring and a stock spring with a 2.5" coil spacer on top of it will flex/RTI/articulate essentially the same.
My point was that all other things being equal, a 2.5" taller coil spring and a stock spring with a 2.5" coil spacer on top of it will flex/RTI/articulate essentially the same.
Either way the only thing I'd buy extra would be some spydertrax spacers.
Last edited by sin52; May 26, 2009 at 07:04 AM.
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Thank you for your help.
This is what I ended up ordering let me know if there is anything you would add since I want a one time install project.
1. 2.5 Teraflex coil lift with shocks
2. Teraflex front adj track bar for lifts 0-6 inches
3. Teraflex Front lower control arms
Again any advice is appreciated!!
dan
AND photos are to come
This is what I ended up ordering let me know if there is anything you would add since I want a one time install project.
1. 2.5 Teraflex coil lift with shocks
2. Teraflex front adj track bar for lifts 0-6 inches
3. Teraflex Front lower control arms
Again any advice is appreciated!!
dan
AND photos are to come
Thank you for your help.
This is what I ended up ordering let me know if there is anything you would add since I want a one time install project.
1. 2.5 Teraflex coil lift with shocks
2. Teraflex front adj track bar for lifts 0-6 inches
3. Teraflex Front lower control arms
Again any advice is appreciated!!
dan
AND photos are to come
This is what I ended up ordering let me know if there is anything you would add since I want a one time install project.
1. 2.5 Teraflex coil lift with shocks
2. Teraflex front adj track bar for lifts 0-6 inches
3. Teraflex Front lower control arms
Again any advice is appreciated!!
dan
AND photos are to come
Thank you for your help.
This is what I ended up ordering let me know if there is anything you would add since I want a one time install project.
1. 2.5 Teraflex coil lift with shocks
2. Teraflex front adj track bar for lifts 0-6 inches
3. Teraflex Front lower control arms
Again any advice is appreciated!!
dan
AND photos are to come
This is what I ended up ordering let me know if there is anything you would add since I want a one time install project.
1. 2.5 Teraflex coil lift with shocks
2. Teraflex front adj track bar for lifts 0-6 inches
3. Teraflex Front lower control arms
Again any advice is appreciated!!
dan
AND photos are to come
Here is one relevant tidbit on your order. For the 2.5" lift you want TF Trackbar part number 1753418. Not 1753419.
The 1753419 is good for 4 inches and up.
Other than that you are gonna love it. I installed the TF coils and shocks with the 1753418 trackbar last Friday and Saturday and had it out wheelin on Monday. Simply excellent. Rolls down the highway at 80 smooth as glass and the off road performance is excellent. We went to a grade 5 trail and just had a great day.
I kept stock 32 inch rubicon tires. I did install 1.5" spacers behind the wheels to get the track a bit wider and eliminate any potential for rubbing.
When you recenter your steering wheel just do it with the sleeve on the trackbar alone. Takes 5 minutes and is as simple as it gets.
When I fit the rear trackbar relo bracket the crossbolt holes did not line up. All I did was bevel the inside edge of the frame bracket about 1/8th inch and the relo bracket lined up easy.
Enjoy
The 1753419 is good for 4 inches and up.
Other than that you are gonna love it. I installed the TF coils and shocks with the 1753418 trackbar last Friday and Saturday and had it out wheelin on Monday. Simply excellent. Rolls down the highway at 80 smooth as glass and the off road performance is excellent. We went to a grade 5 trail and just had a great day.
I kept stock 32 inch rubicon tires. I did install 1.5" spacers behind the wheels to get the track a bit wider and eliminate any potential for rubbing.
When you recenter your steering wheel just do it with the sleeve on the trackbar alone. Takes 5 minutes and is as simple as it gets.
When I fit the rear trackbar relo bracket the crossbolt holes did not line up. All I did was bevel the inside edge of the frame bracket about 1/8th inch and the relo bracket lined up easy.
Enjoy
His: 07 JK Rubi, 6 spd, 5.13s, TF 2.5" BB, 1" MORE BL, RH skids, trimmed flares, 37" KM2s, Walker Evans beadlocks, Hypertech, PJ bumpers, Warn M8000, Mt. Logan front axle sleeves, ORE gussets, AlloyUSA front shafts, Superior rear shafts.
Hers: 08 JK Rubi Unlimited, auto, 5.13s, TF long arm w/ORE coilovers (6" lift), 37" MTRs, 15x8 Soft 8s, AEV Procal, Hansen bumpers, Warn 9.5ti, ORE gussets.
Son's: 04 TJ RME, 4.56s, TrueTracs, 3" Teraflex/BDS, full skids, 33" Toyo MTs.
Hers: 08 JK Rubi Unlimited, auto, 5.13s, TF long arm w/ORE coilovers (6" lift), 37" MTRs, 15x8 Soft 8s, AEV Procal, Hansen bumpers, Warn 9.5ti, ORE gussets.
Son's: 04 TJ RME, 4.56s, TrueTracs, 3" Teraflex/BDS, full skids, 33" Toyo MTs.
What I'm curious about though is your wife's rig. Why the modest lift and armor on your rig and yet a 6" long arm on your wife's for the same tire size? Is hers the second attempt and you guys tried something different?
Does hers perform better, worse, or about the same offroad (I know hers has a longer wheelbase which skews things a bit.
Cheers!


