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3.73 with 35's on a 2012

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Old Feb 14, 2012 | 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by smitty'
I agree I have 37 with 4.88 and I think it would be better with the 4.56s. I'm at almost 3000 rpm's at 70 mph so I drive 65 to stay just in the green on the speedometer.
Now that is interesting. Hell 1/4 of the guys with 35's run 4.88 gears...if not more. Its crazy that 4.88's with 37's are overgeared....
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Old Feb 14, 2012 | 04:03 PM
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Not to focus on my situation... But why am I getting 11-12 MPG with a 2012 auto 3.73 gears and 35" trail grapplers? Seems like when I'm driving on the highway, it has NO power in 5th gear and have to shift there manually. even still, it wants to go back into 4th. Id assume that's what's killing my MPG? Please help!!! :@
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Old Feb 14, 2012 | 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by jklawrence3991
Not to focus on my situation... But why am I getting 11-12 MPG with a 2012 auto 3.73 gears and 35" trail grapplers? Seems like when I'm driving on the highway, it has NO power in 5th gear and have to shift there manually. even still, it wants to go back into 4th. Id assume that's what's killing my MPG? Please help!!! :@
Sounds like you're speedometer isn't calbrated. You definitely need a Procal. Shifts are based on mph and throttle position. Without the speedometer being corrected, you'll get errant shifts and gear hunting. That will rob your mileage and degrade performance.
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Old Feb 14, 2012 | 04:24 PM
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Sounds like you're speedometer isn't calbrated. You definitely need a Procal. Shifts are based on mph and throttle position. Without the speedometer being corrected, you'll get errant shifts and gear hunting. That will rob your mileage and degrade performance.
Ordered a procal online this morning...guess that was a good move haha! Just put the 35's on last Saturday, thought I might have to re-gear...hoping the procal will save me some $$$. Thanks
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Old Feb 14, 2012 | 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by jklawrence3991
Ordered a procal online this morning...guess that was a good move haha! Just put the 35's on last Saturday, thought I might have to re-gear...hoping the procal will save me some $$$. Thanks
Also, if you're using the onboard computer for your mileage, you are rolling significantly more miles than it thinks you are.
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Old Feb 14, 2012 | 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by MrDillClinton

Now that is interesting. Hell 1/4 of the guys with 35's run 4.88 gears...if not more. Its crazy that 4.88's with 37's are overgeared....
We are talking 2012's here...pre-2012 35's and 4.88 would be a great set up...I had it on my 2010 and 2011...but 2012 it a whole new ball game.
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Old Feb 14, 2012 | 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by hasten3
To really confuse you...I had 3.73 on my 2012 Unlimited Rubicon, when I went with 35's I also changed to 4.56 gears, which I personally think is the best setup, 4.88 and above would be too steep IMHO and I have an automatic. At the time most people that were going to stay stock gears were running 4.10 on 35's. At 70mph I am running about 2600-2700 rpm and getting 16.5 mpg around town, which is a lot better than my 2010 or 2011 got with 35's...even after Superchips, CAI, and 4.88 gears they at best were getting 13-14 and that was on the highway.
How would you compare your power now(4.56 w /35's) to a stock JKU with 3.73 gearing? similar power?
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Old Feb 14, 2012 | 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by JKTXJL

How would you compare your power now(4.56 w /35's) to a stock JKU with 3.73 gearing? similar power?
I would say it has more power on take off and a little quicker on acceleration, but the 3.73 was a little smoother with the lower RPM cruising down the highway at 70, but the 4.56 with 35's has no problems running down the highway at 70 or 80, you are just running a little higher rpm...I have no regrets!
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Old Feb 14, 2012 | 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by hasten3
I would say it has more power on take off and a little quicker on acceleration, but the 3.73 was a little smoother with the lower RPM cruising down the highway at 70, but the 4.56 with 35's has no problems running down the highway at 70 or 80, you are just running a little higher rpm...I have no regrets!
Right on! Totally getting 4.56 as my next mod.
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Old Feb 14, 2012 | 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted by JPop
Sounds like you're speedometer isn't calbrated. You definitely need a Procal. Shifts are based on mph and throttle position. Without the speedometer being corrected, you'll get errant shifts and gear hunting. That will rob your mileage and degrade performance.
The nag1 or 580 as they seem to call it now has its own tcm, hasn't been hacked since 05 when it came out in the lx cars and there really are no plans to do anything with it from the companies i've talked to. as far as mods you can use some blue top solenoids from the amg black series for some really nice up and down shifts. and you can build it to handle around 1000 rwhp after that hard parts start breaking that no one makes.

Its shift point mapping has nothing to with mph at all. its mapping table is based on rpm, throttle position, load, and traction. the tcm is made to 'learn' if you are having lazy shifts it is because of the way you have been driving it. you need to pull the esp fuse or battery cable for it to reset. you can also use a starscan to reset adaptives. or once diablo cracks the code they will have minor adjuments for the tcm like shift points, firmer shifts, and easy reset for the adaptives.



also i'm getting around 17 mpg (calculated based on the 17% difference in mileage) with mixed driving with the trail grappler.
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