More like the claims denial office.

I'd push them on the EGR valve replacement, although it's not covered as long as some other components. In the states I think it's required to be covered for 2 years 24,000 miles, and covered under the basic 3 year 36,000 mile Chrysler warranty.

Your bolt ons are definitely going to raise a flag on potentially denying service, so tread carefully and be courteous. If they draw your ire, swallow your spit and refrain from negative commentary without first applying the 24 hour rule. You're likely at the verge of getting blacklisted, and when that happens everything else will become a bigger chore.

 

You will probably have to stay on them to get it resolved. Be polite but firm. Has the pinging improved at all or is it the same?

 

Just heard back from Chrysler they are going to take heads off and check valves. Parts are going to take a week to come in.

 

You have a good dealer and service manager working with you ... as someone said, bring in some donuts.

The expensive ones.... like chocolate eclairs.

 

What parts? Are they going to replace the valves? I'm curious how this gets resolved I have a feeling we have a similar problem...

 

They are just inspecting as of now I won't know what they are doing untill they get it apart

 

x2 they are being good about it.

 

Fuel Additives

Every product sold in the US must have what’s known as a Material Data Safety Sheet, or MSDS for short. If you google BG 44k, Seafoam, Techron, or any other similar product along with +msds (meaning "bg44k +msds") as the search argument you will find that they all contain two or more of the same chemicals: Naphtha (a solvent), Isopropyl alcohol (a solvent), and mineral spirits (a solvent.)

Here is an interesting post from "Dan the Oil Man" concerning BG 44K:

"BG44K was great stuff....until about Nov. [2004]

Then they cheaped out the formula, removed PEA from it.

Ingredients of the OLD 44K:
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Polyetheramine (CAS N/A)
Heavy Aromatic Petroleum Distillates (CAS 64742-94-5)
Hydrotreated Heavy Petroleum Distillates (CAS 64742-48-9)
Napthalene (CAS 91-20-3)
1,2,4-Trimethylbenzene (CAS 95-63-6)

Ingredients of the NEW 44K:
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Stoddard Solvent (CAS 8052-41-3)
Hydrotreated Kerosene (CAS 64742-47-
Light Aromatic Solvent Naptha (CAS 64742-95-6)
_________________
Dan The Oil Man"

The differents between BG44K and TECHRON


Today bg44k has up to 70% naphtha:

Distillates (petroleum), hydrotreated light 64742-47-8 Kerosene
Mineral Spirits 8052-41-3
Isopropyl alcohol (a solvent)


Coleman lantern and camp stove fuel is 100% naphtha (check the MSDS)
mineral spirits at your local grocery store for about $3
97% alcohol it’s in you grocery store for about $1.



Chevron TECHRON MSDS

COMPONENTS CAS NUMBER AMOUNT
Solvent naphtha (petroleum), light aromatic 64742-95-6 44
1,2,4-trimethylbenzene 95-63-6 14
Polyalkylene amine
Xylene 1330-20-7
1,3,5-trimethylbenzene 108-67-8

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Check on racing fuel MSDS and see what it has in it !


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Nice find, and not that I have much use of any of the stuff to begin with.

It's been a while, but I have found getting a small amount of water into the intake seems to clear up combustion chamber carbon. Using the washer fluid reservoir, a valve that will gravity release a drop per second and tying it into the intake (no longer gravity fed) will clear up carbon build up. It would take 3+ tanks to run a gallon through and the engine isn't ingesting much more water than it would see if it were constantly raining.

 

JPop:

You're absolutely right, water injection and managing thermo efficiency !

The Aircraft as well as the Military industry have been using water injection since the 1930's, and realized the benefits of it, just keeping the applyed physics of it short here ( steam cleaning), another benefit is that the water injection reservoir can receive Additives as well, depending on your fuel environment.

In my travels my fuel environment will change, from the Hopi tribe of northern Az to the tumble weed of southern Tx and so forth.
Thats why I use top tear fuel, sure it cost more, but the benefit of it out weighs the cost of a component or an engine.

We both know Chrysler will put a fuel filter with a water separator that a D.I.Y. can do on their diesel engines but not the JK, Chrysler has the chance to do thing's right for the JK but choose not too because of manufacture cost and sales in turn making the average JOE goto the stealership, now you're talking cost!

I say ( If you can find a good garage ) support your local shop like bubba_zenetti for work, and all warranty work to the dealership.

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